[Marsha] Should patterns be seen as promoting "agency" when millions of people are suffering from patterns of bondage?
[Arlo] And millions and millions are travel around the world, and don't have to worry about hunger, and make use of libraries and bookstores, and go to schools to learn things, and can jump on their motorcycles and drive across country, and can check the weather on their computers, or engage in metaphysical dialogue with people around the world. Structures provide us with greater and greater agency, our biological structure prevents us from flying (no wings), but our legs enable us to walk around. Our social participating allows us greater "freedoms" than we enjoyed as pre-social primates wandering around the jungle. "The idea that, "man is born free but is everywhere in chains" was never true. There are no chains more vicious than the chains of biological necessity into which every child is born. Society exists primarily to free people from these biological chains." (LILA) Are these structures also constraining? Of course. Is there a danger when structure becomes so entrenched it can longer evolve? Of course. But I'll take the "freedoms" these structures enable any day over the really imprisoning way things would be without them. "The cells Dynamically invented animals to preserve and improve their situation. The animals Dynamically invented societies, and societies Dynamically invented intellectual knowledge for the same reasons." (LILA) Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
