Marsha said to Horse:
I think a great place to look for "ever-changing" as I present it is in the MoQ 
Textbook 5.8.4 THE MOQ, DUKKHA AND AVIDAYA (IGNORANCE) ... I have meant what is 
very similar to what is quoted here.


dmb says:
No, Marsha. Your "evidence" does not support your assertion that static 
patterns are ever-changing. The quotes are not about static patterns. They are 
about DQ, the immediate flux of life, direct experience, the primary empirical 
reality or whatever else you what to call it. This can be shown by simply 
isolating the key phrases, all of which refer to the dynamic flux or reality. 
Look for yourself...

"... all aspects of our experience are in constant flux and change."   

"...the fundamental nature of reality is change.."   

"... just a flow of perceptions. ...an ever-changing flow of perceptions..." 

"Experience is the central theme of Buddhism, not theoretical postulation and 
deductive verification". 



See, it would make a heck of a lot of sense to post these quotes if you were 
interested in clarifying what Pirsig means by Dynamic Quality. But you're using 
it as supporting evidence for your definition of static quality. That's 100% 
wrong. The quotes describe exactly what static patterns aren't. Experience is 
ever-changing but theories and deductive reasoning are the static patterns we 
add. This is what the DQ/sq distinction is all about. You keep confusing the 
perceptual flux with the conceptual order, the primary empirical reality with 
the words and concepts that we derive from that reality. And as a result, your 
claims are incoherent and contradictory.


                                          
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