Hi Marsha and all, When emotions are viewed as DQ, for me the biggest question is HOW. In some way I have to train my perceptions to avoid definition and roll with experience, Thank you! Pirsig!
I am all on fire, sometimes, realizing I know nothing. I struggle to experience the undefined. I can tell no one and I squirm under my burden, realizing I have not been taught to look at that. I try teaching myself, under the flag of: Whoever teaches themselves is taught by a fool! Joe On 7/13/11 11:38 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Joe, > > It's all analogy - biology, chemistry, emotions - all the way down,,, when > named. > Amazing. Tonight is E-minor, blue - diamonds and rust. I need to cry, but > can't. > > So MU. > > > Marsha > > > > > On Jul 13, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote: > >> Hi Steve, Marsha and all, >> >> >> Between "external duty, and internal duty" seems to encompass everything. >> Perhaps, viewing emotions as DQ places them beyond internal duty? When >> emotions are defined SQ, they cease to be emotions. Emotions cannot be >> defined as DQ since DQ in itself is indefinable. Emotions are a different >> name in biology for DQ. >> >> Joe >> >> >> On 7/13/11 8:14 AM, "Steven Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Marsha, >>> >>> Marsha: >>> I just don't get the insistence on MY free-will. As far as the >>> ethical considerations, these statements make the most sense to me. >>>> >>>> "Dharma, like rta, means 'what holds together.' It is the basis of all >>>> order. >>>> It equals righteousness. It is the ethical code. It is the stable condition >>>> which gives man perfect satisfaction. >>>> >>>> "Dharma is duty. It is not external duty which is arbitrarily imposed by >>>> others. It is not any artificial set of conventions which can be amended or >>>> repealed by legislation. Neither is it internal duty which is arbitrarily >>>> decided by one's own conscience. Dharma is beyond all questions of what is >>>> internal and what is external. Dharma is Quality itself, the principle of >>>> 'rightness' which gives structure and purpose to the evolution of all life >>>> and to the evolving understanding of the universe which life has created." >>>> >>>> (LILA, Chapter 30) >>>> >>>> So MU. >>> >>> >>> Steve: >>> NIce job digging up this quote. I love how it specifically backs our >>> point that dropping internal/external considerations like SOM free >>> will/determism do not negate moral structure and purpose. It is >>> irrelevant to duty--what dmb surely means by moral responsibility. >>> >>> Best, >>> Steve > > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
