Marsha to dmb:

You sure don't now...   Ad hominem attacks, and you say she says he says are 
the best you can do.

backing up her:
... Of freewill, determinism and causation, I neither accept them nor reject them. They 
are static patterns of value, sometimes useful illusions and sometimes not. As static 
patterns of value, they are not Ultimately Real.  ... I can only repeat:  I neither 
accept free-will, determinism&  causation, nor reject free-will, determinism&  
causation; they are static patterns of value that have at times been considered useful 
illusions, but are not Ultimately Real.

Andre:
The foundation of your snotty behaviour in your bucket is that you appeal to 
the 'ultimate' unreality of everything. This makes you nihilistic whilst 
pretending to be so smart. Was Heroshima an illusion? Was Nagasaki not real? 
Was this also an illusion?

I am sure you wriggle out of this as well Marsha, perhaps suggesting it is not 
this not that. But you come over to me as a very opportunistic and therefore 
dishonest person...blowing with the wind.


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