On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Marsha to dmb:
> 
> You sure don't know...   Ad hominem attacks, and you say she says he says are 
> the best you can do.
> 
> backing up her:
> ... Of freewill, determinism and causation, I neither accept them nor reject 
> them. They are static patterns of value, sometimes useful illusions and 
> sometimes not. As static patterns of value, they are not Ultimately Real.  
> ... I can only repeat:  I neither accept free-will, determinism&  causation, 
> nor reject free-will, determinism&  causation; they are static patterns of 
> value that have at times been considered useful illusions, but are not 
> Ultimately Real.
> 
> Andre:
> The foundation of your snotty behaviour in your bucket is that you appeal to 
> the 'ultimate' unreality of everything. This makes you nihilistic whilst 
> pretending to be so smart. Was Heroshima an illusion? Was Nagasaki not real? 
> Was this also an illusion?

Marsha:
No, the question was concerning free-wlll, determinism and causation, not 
everything.  I am not denying them, which would be nihilism.  I am neither 
accepting them nor rejecting (denying) them.  


> Andre:
> I am sure you wriggle out of this as well Marsha, perhaps suggesting it is 
> not this not that. But you come over to me as a very opportunistic and 
> therefore dishonest person...blowing with the wind.

Marsha:
Why would I debate a non-issue?  I'll leave it for those want to take a som 
point-of-view.  

 
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