I'd say Marsha .... it's a (not) real as any pattern is (not) real. Ian
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 3:11 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mark, > > Many people do harbor a deep-seated sense/belief/assumption/feeling that > given an identical situation, they could have chosen to act differently. But > the > assumption of having a free-will, of being a free agent, is but a pattern, > and is > not Ultimately Real. imho > > > Marsha > > > > On Jul 15, 2011, at 12:39 AM, 118 wrote: > >> Let's get serious here. This is an MoQ forum, we should be talking >> about the Quality of Free will. I am tired of reading posts that are >> either copies, quotes, or plagiarisms of something that was said one >> year ago, or two hundred years ago. I can forgive the newcomers, or >> the wannabys since they do not know better. But some of these >> established Qists who do this deliberately to obfuscate the purpose of >> this forum and mislead the reader into thinking that something new is >> being developed in this world, is really unforgivable and immoral. If >> we are doing an Inquiry into morals, let's at least begin with >> ourselves. Is it moral to present something as if it is your own >> idea, simply for the purposes of aggrandizement? Is is moral to >> mislead and obfuscate for the deliberate purpose of denigrating the >> Metaphysics of Quality? If Pirsig were still alive, he would go >> quickly back to his grave in disgust. Is there not one of use that >> has the Values appropriate for promoting his metaphysics. You guys >> (and gals) just make me sick. Who amongst you is willing to rise >> above this petty and insignificant posturing? Who amongst you is >> ready to stand for something real and enduring. Please do not all >> raise your hands at once. And stop cowering under that classroom desk >> afraid that I may pick on you. Really!! >> >> Mark >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
