Hi Folks
I think there is and has been a huge difference between the Platt/Arlo
exchanges and those between Steve and DMB.
Platt tended to use this forum on many occasions to promote a
(far)right-wing political agenda and Arlo, quite rightly, called him out
on a number of issues which have zero support from the MoQ. Personally,
I'm glad that Arlo had the patience and tenacity to keep it up for as
long as he did. Thank you Arlo.
And I disagree about your exchanges having no value except as comments
in the archives - I think they had and still have tremendous value in
showing the low Quality of an ideology that has all but brought Western
civilisation to its knees.
Steve and Dave go hammer and tongs at, for the most part I think,
philosophical issues. They have different interpretations of Pirsig (and
others) work and neither of them appear to be particularly aggrieved at
the treatment they both mete out to each other. Although having said
that it would be nice every now and again guys if you two took a
breather and looked at where you agree - because it seems to me that
there are a number of areas where this occurs. I could be wrong but I
think that's true.
Anyway, there have been some excellent discussions of late so keep it up.
And while I'm on I'll take the opportunity to comment on the topic
originally raised by this thread.
Pirsig's work is popular but, thankfully, not populist.
It has influenced a great number of people and continues to do so.
That it hasn't become a mere fad is, in my opinion, one of it's strengths.
I believe that it will continue to build and that folks like DMB, Ant
etc. will be around to fight for it both in and out of academia.
And the twat that said closing this forum would be the best thing I
could do for the MoQ can kiss my arse!
Cheers
Horse
On 24/07/2011 01:01, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote:
[Dan]
In the past, when Arlo and Platt engaged in endless bickering with
name-calling, insults, and just plain ignorance, I didn't even bother reading
their posts.
[Arlo]
For the record, there was more to this than a simple tit-for-tat exchange of
"name-calling". Platt used evasion at every turn, outright lied about not only
what I was saying but what I had said, and pretended today that what he said
yesterday didn't exist. I called Platt out specifically because that type of
horrible rhetoric should NOT be left unchallenged in a metaphysical/philosophy
group. This is not an AOL chat room where ridiculous statements should be left
unchallenged.
But you're right, our exchanges had no value except that to me his comments
stand, in the archives, challenged and called out. Should I have exercised more
patience? Maybe. I am not perfect. But years and years of dealing with
talk-radio tactics and bombast had left me with a very short fuse. Should I
have just put him on ignore? Maybe. I did for a while, as I do now with quite a
few people.
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