Hi Marsha,
In my opinion, Not This, Not That is pointing at something.  This is
not what is stated in the Diamond Sutra.  That Sutra is mainly
concerned with servitude to all sentient beings.  The Bodhidarma's
incarnation is not satisfied (free of "suffering") until this is
achieved.  Of course it never is because of wayward man.

If you do want to point at something, it is both feminine and
masculine.  Yin is feminine (giving) and Yang is masculine (taking).
Or, as Father Tyresius, would say: "Once as a man as the earth I
raged; once a woman as the sea I gave; but there is in fact more earth
than sea."

At least you are half-right in my book.

I am glad that you find it clearly, I have a hard time expressing the
mystical.  It is through a tall dark glass clearly for me.

Namaste,
Mark

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:24 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:55 AM, 118 wrote:
>
>> Hi Marsha,
>> Your finding Nada may be a function of how you are looking for it.  If
>> you use standard Subject/Object metaphysics, then of course you will
>> find nothing.  In the same way that Atman cannot be found in that way.
>> This is one reason why Pirsig does not like that metaphysics.
>> However, if you look beyond that metaphysics, believe me you will find
>> it.  Keep hunting, you will see it at at some totally random normal
>> time, this is called enlightenment.  There is nothing special about
>> finding it.  You will wonder why you didn't see it before since it is
>> so simple.  It really does exist.  I cannot help you since you are far
>> away.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>> Mark
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:20 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> It is still speculation and under investigation, but I cannot find anything 
>>> INHERENTLY existing.  Nada.  And I'm not sure what face of Buddha you think 
>>> I am aiming for.  What do you think of the witnessing experience?
>>>
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>
>
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Far away, which everybody knows is relative, nada & "spiritual rationalism"
> can be found in the Diamond Sutra: neither this, nor that.   It is feminine.
> Lila, in chapter 14, states it clearly.
>
>
> Marsha
>
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