Greetings Mark,

I used most purposively the phrase "neither this, nor that".  

I know very little about Taoism, but always find your opinions 
quite interesting.   


Marsha 



On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:02 PM, 118 wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> In my opinion, Not This, Not That is pointing at something.  This is
> not what is stated in the Diamond Sutra.  That Sutra is mainly
> concerned with servitude to all sentient beings.  The Bodhidarma's
> incarnation is not satisfied (free of "suffering") until this is
> achieved.  Of course it never is because of wayward man.
> 
> If you do want to point at something, it is both feminine and
> masculine.  Yin is feminine (giving) and Yang is masculine (taking).
> Or, as Father Tyresius, would say: "Once as a man as the earth I
> raged; once a woman as the sea I gave; but there is in fact more earth
> than sea."
> 
> At least you are half-right in my book.
> 
> I am glad that you find it clearly, I have a hard time expressing the
> mystical.  It is through a tall dark glass clearly for me.
> 
> Namaste,
> Mark
> 
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:24 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:55 AM, 118 wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Marsha,
>>> Your finding Nada may be a function of how you are looking for it.  If
>>> you use standard Subject/Object metaphysics, then of course you will
>>> find nothing.  In the same way that Atman cannot be found in that way.
>>> This is one reason why Pirsig does not like that metaphysics.
>>> However, if you look beyond that metaphysics, believe me you will find
>>> it.  Keep hunting, you will see it at at some totally random normal
>>> time, this is called enlightenment.  There is nothing special about
>>> finding it.  You will wonder why you didn't see it before since it is
>>> so simple.  It really does exist.  I cannot help you since you are far
>>> away.
>>> 
>>> Good Luck,
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:20 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>> 
>>>> It is still speculation and under investigation, but I cannot find 
>>>> anything INHERENTLY existing.  Nada.  And I'm not sure what face of Buddha 
>>>> you think I am aiming for.  What do you think of the witnessing experience?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> Far away, which everybody knows is relative, nada & "spiritual rationalism"
>> can be found in the Diamond Sutra: neither this, nor that.   It is feminine.
>> Lila, in chapter 14, states it clearly.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
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