Hi Ham and All,

Evolution can be described as levels in existence.  How many levels?  For
myself I accept seven levels in existence.  Reality has a number of faces.

Accepting a "duality in existence" is either fish or fowl and you don't gain
much clarity in only an acceptance of "yes" and "no".  "Oh My Stars!" is so
much more real!

A sensible awareness of the primacy of existence aids in the evaluation of a
description of evolution.

Joe


On 7/28/11 11:32 PM, "Ham Priday" <[email protected]> wrote:

> You gain nothing philosophically or spiritually by refusing to acknowledge
> the duality of existence.  I realize that 'subject/object reality' is
> anathema to Buddhist monks and mystical philosophers.  But the world we live
> in is a world of appearances.  And there is no way an appearance can exist
> and be made sensible without a conscious self to experience it.  Pirsig's
> mistake, in my opinion, was to posit Quality (Value) as the primary reality.
> What is primary to existence is sensible Awareness.  It is the conscious
> Self which brings Value into being.


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