On Aug 3, 2011, at 7:53 AM, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote: > [Ian] > If you saw it as the whole world with nothing / no-one beyond the horizons, > even then I suspect it would / could. > > [Arlo] > MRB's initial question was "would it occur to me on a desert island?", and the > answer is "no". According to the MOQ, intellectual patterns of value do not > spontaneously arise from the biological level. They emerge from the social > level. > > "Mental patterns do not originate out of inorganic nature. They originate out > of society, which originates out of biology which originates out of inorganic > nature." (LILA) > > In this case, MRB would have the range of agency opened up to him on the > biological level, but he would not have access to social or intellectual > patterns, in other words, no social or intellectual activity. > > And if you are talking not about "occurring to", but something witnessed by > some hidden observer, then this observer would see MRB exhibiting about the > same range of "free will" as an unsocialized ape. (The ape would be seen > "choosing" to eat a banana, and so would MRB, but neither would be able to > "choose" any behavior endemic to the social or intellectual levels.)
Hi Arlo, Don't you think this might be a problems with considering all 'thinking' to be intellectual, or intellectual patterns? Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
