Steve said to dmb:
..Anyway, are you suggesting here that Boyle's Two-Stage model for
understanding Jamesian free will, is what Pirsig means by freedom? ...It
[Doyle's lecture to the William James Society at Harvard] would perhaps have
helped you if the issue was that I didn't understand what Jamesian free will
was. But the issue for me is ....
dmb says:
Dude, the issue is your understanding of Jamesian free will. You brought the
issue to the table when you starting quoting from James essay, "The Dilemma of
Determinism". And it was Marsha who found the Youtube lectures, although I had
earlier quoted Doyle in my efforts to explain how you were misreading James's
essay.
I honestly don't know what motivated you to bring James's two-stage model into
the debate (and Marsha's motives are even more mysterious to me) but if anyone
should be asking anyone how it's relevant to Pirsig's formulation, I should be
asking you. What was your point in bringing it? What is your purpose in
ignoring the Jamesian analysis I offered?
Sometimes I think you and Marsha are same person.
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