On Oct 3, 2011, at 6:17 PM, david buchanan wrote:

> 
> Steve said to dmb:
> ..Anyway, are you suggesting here that Boyle's Two-Stage model for 
> understanding Jamesian free will, is what Pirsig means by freedom?  ...It 
> [Doyle's lecture to the William James Society at Harvard] would perhaps have 
> helped you if the issue was that I didn't understand what Jamesian free will 
> was. But the issue for me is ....
> 
> 
> 
> dmb says:
> Dude, the issue is your understanding of Jamesian free will. You brought the 
> issue to the table when you starting quoting from James essay, "The Dilemma 
> of Determinism". And it was Marsha who found the Youtube lectures, although I 
> had earlier quoted Doyle in my efforts to explain how you were misreading 
> James's essay. 



Marsha:
My question was, in general: How does William James improve the MoQ?  As far as 
I can see it does not.  It just points backwards and has nothing to say about 
Quality, static patterns, or the hierarchical, evolutionary structure that 
helps evaluate many conflicting patterns.  

 
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