Greetings Steve,
On Oct 6, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Steven Peterson wrote: > Hi Marsha, > > >> I would like the source of that quote, please. > > LC annotation 45. > > >> From Anthony's PhD: >> >> "The block at the top [of the above MOQ diagram] contains such static >> intellectual patterns as theology, science, philosophy, mathematics. The >> placement of the intellect in this position makes it superior to society, >> biology and inorganic patterns but still inferior to Dynamic Quality. >> (Pirsig, 1995a, p.14)" >> >> This quote, which I believe comes from the SODV, seems to indicate that a >> particular type of idea represents intellectual patterns. > > > Steve: > What ideas do you think don't qualify as intellectual patterns? > > How about this?: human practices that are not genetically hard-wired > are social patterns except for the practice of _justifyng_ practices > which is what is meant by intellectual patterns. Marsha: I don't see any direct reference to intellectual patterns in Annotation 45. I understand the beginning of the Intellectual Level to be about the time of the early Greeks, with the birth of formal rationality and the natural sciences with probably with Aristotle as primary midwife. RMP offering theology, science, philosophy and mathematics seems to reinforce this point-of-view. As has been said many times before, there was thinking and serious ideas being thought many millennium before that period. I connect all static patterns with thought in a different manner. RMP has said that static quality represents all that can be conceptualized. So I describe static patterns of value from two different points-of-view. One is the nature of all patterns: interdependent, impermanent, ever-changing and conceptualized. A second point-of-view would be categorization by evolutionary function: inorganic, biological, social and intellectual. Mary has suggested that that functioning might be described by 'what the level values.' That makes sense to me. ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
