Greetings Matt, On Oct 27, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Matt Kundert wrote:
> > Greetings Marsha, > >> Greetings Matt, >> >> On Oct 26, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Matt Kundert wrote: >>> >>> Hello Marsha, >>> >>> Sorry about my joke--I'd sent the response post before reading your >>> catch of the mistake. (And it hardly needs apologizing for--we all >>> make trivial mistakes like that.) >>> snip... >> >> I think you have misstated that a _couple of times_ recently I invoked, to >> you, an "Absolute" And, of course, I did not capitalize the absolute. > > Matt: > No, I don't think I did misstate that. I'm counting our exchange > earlier this month in "Taking Words Seriously," which at one point > you said, "If you would like to present standards by which an > argument is ultimately judged good or bad and why RMP presented > a bad argument, please do so" (Oct. 17). This is the same gesture > I find weird. > > That is the only one I can directly evidence, though I feel like we've > crossed this terrain before, which is the explanation for my vague > "second or third." And no, you did not capitalize "Absolute." I did. Marsha: I don't see Ultimate and "Absolute" as the same, and I would never capitalize 'absolute.' I probably should totally drop the word 'absolute,' but habits are sometimes hard to break. I understand from your point-of-view RMP has presented a bad argument and may seem a less then adequate scholar. >>> Matt: >>> You wondered earlier about what it is I'm trying to grasp, and >>> whether I even know, but how about this as an answer: I'm trying to >>> grasp the inner workings of my own thought-processes while at the >>> same time trying to see how they fit other people's. That's a way of >>> describing philosophical conversation. What's mind-boggling to me >>> about conversing with you is that sometimes it seems like you're just >>> trying to flout being pinned down as thinking X or Y. Like, every time >>> someone tries to approach your thinking in order to understand it, in >>> fact. It's as if you interpret these communicative approaches as >>> attempts to dominate you, but sometimes that's just not what's >>> going on. >> >> Since you have not asked a clear and concise question, but seem >> satisfied with your vague projections, I find no way to clearly respond. >> >> Thanks for writing. > > Matt: > No, thank you for trying. Part of my vague projecting is that your > philosophical identity is, to me, a vague mist, even after all these > years, and that every time I try and get a clear picture of what you > think, and show that picture to you, you snap at me. So, all there is > to do is mistily describe a mist. You can't capture a mist after all: it > disappears when you try. But, I have to admit that part of the onus > must be on me at failing to develop a picture you won't snap at me > for. Marsha: Much of my understanding comes from practices that you dismiss: mediation, mindfulness and three brief encounters of the unpatterned kind. If you want an explanation, I might say philosophically I'm a radical skeptic and a negative empiricist, I mean just that: not this, not that. Reality to me is Quality(Dynamic/static). That seems very straight forward. I don't snap with anger, more with a strange sense of humor. > Matt: > And that's a hell of a lot more than anyone else will admit to you, > even though the frustration of talking to you I think is wider felt > than just by me. Marsha: I appreciate that you try, and your being honest. My expression might be different but it is true to my experience. > Matt: > And yet, I'm never compensated by better > communicative channels by such "we're all in this together > sentiments." Marsha: I think maybe that mediation/mindfulness issue puts us in very different positions. > Matt: > I feel these sentiments sincerely, that communication > is a boat every person _has_ to help steer. But eventually we all > make that personal choice to ditch the boat we're on and seek other > ones. Marsha: Okay... Thanks Matt. Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
