Mark,  

If you think that I'm trapped, well then that's what you think, but you have 
not demonstrated that I am trapped anymore than anybody using conventional 
language.  And no, you have not offered any standards (authoritative model) by 
which you are both judging my posts and writing your own.  


Marsha




On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:19 PM, 118 wrote:

> Oh.
> 
> I suppose the standard would be furthering the MoQ through analogy.  
> Defensiveness is the quality of standing fast to a concept to show one is 
> unmoved by argument.  Such defensiveness is a cage of SOM, wherein one 
> resorts to words said by another without any creative thought.
> 
> Your patterned/unpatterned has got you caught.  If you could express this in 
> another way, it may help you.  I have no interest in you, just what you 
> propose in these discussions.  You are safe.
> 
> Does that answer your question?
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 1:52 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> If you choose to label my posts as defensive, rather than as 
>> intellectual, I'm asking what standards are you using both to 
>> judge my posts and to write your own?  
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 4:40 PM, 118 wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Marsha,
>>> I have no idea what you are talking about in terms of "standards of
>>> intellectual discourse".  Could you please ask the question in another
>>> way?
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:30 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sweet Mark,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 29, 2011 Mark wrote to dmb:
>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark:
>>>>>> Marsha may think you are attacking her personally rather than having an 
>>>>>> intellectual debate.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 3, 2011 Marsha asked Mark:
>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha:
>>>>> By what standards of intellectual discourse do you write?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I ask again:
>>>> I'm still waiting.  By what standards of intellectual discourse do you 
>>>> write?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
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