On Nov 23, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Arlo Bensinger wrote:

> [Marsha]
> When you wrote 'historical philosophical conversation', weren't you limiting 
> the statement to Western-centric historical philosophical conversation? I am 
> interested in exploring the relationship between Buddhism and the MoQ.
> 
> [Arlo]
> I do not speak any Eastern languages, nor am I fluent enough to understand 
> the specific cultural and historical meanings of what gets translated into 
> the English term "relativism" when the word is pulled out of that context and 
> put in a paragraph in front of me.
> 
> It may very well be that whatever term the Buddhists use that we translate as 
> "relativism" matches the MOQ's stance precisely. But the problem is (1) we 
> are not in that context, in the Eastern world with a fluent understanding of 
> their thoughts and language and cultural history, and (2) the term when used 
> in translation is someone's best approximation of whatever original term was 
> used within that language, and so I don't think demanding the term be used is 
> wrong-sighted.
> 
> In essence, even making this argument, you are saying that the there is no 
> real term in English that coincides with the original idea taken out of that 
> context, and "relativism" may be close but you're off then in redefining 
> 'relativism' to capture what meaning was lost in translation. This may be 
> good for you, but when that argument extends outside of people knowing how 
> you have personally redefined the word, it becomes entirely problematic.
> 
> Maybe "relativism" isn't the best lexical selection in translation. Maybe 
> "contextualism" or "relationalism" or whatever is better, I don't know. But 
> why reforce meaning to keep a particular 'word' rather than improve your 
> understanding of meaning and offer words in English that may, or do, map onto 
> the original cultural-historical idea better?

Marsha:
And that opinion is relative to your pattern life history.  I will continue to 
follow my interest in the relationship between the MoQ and Buddhism based on my 
pattern life history and immediate experience.  


 
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