Heh, heh,
Doing what you call the "dmb dance"?  Now Marsha, if you are only going to 
answer the questions that keep you hidden then what can I say?   I suppose 
ignorance is bliss.  Every time I pull your covers you scurry back under.

Now, I know you need the last word, so what is it this time?  How about 
neti-neti?  Certainly if you don't care what it is, it can be neither.  This is 
a wonderful interaction, thank you for the opportunity, I mean it, it is good 
practice for the both of us.

A relative cheers to you,
Mark

On Nov 23, 2011, at 12:42 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Guess so.   
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 23, 2011, at 3:41 PM, 118 wrote:
> 
>> Hi Marsha,
>> Perhaps I have stumped you with my request for a definition in the
>> post below.  Perhaps you think it is a trap, and are doing the same
>> thing that you project on dmb, hiding under the covers.  Perhaps this
>> question did not get your attention.
>> 
>> So, let me ask you a different question:
>> What is it deep down inside you (and possibly many others) that causes
>> you to want to compare everything?
>> 
>> No, not a trick question, a question requesting understanding on my
>> part.  Relativism is only one way of looking at things, imo.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:50 PM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Marsha, how do you define "relative" as used in you comments below?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> On Nov 22, 2011, at 11:05 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 22, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Steven Peterson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Marsha,
>>>>> 
>>>>> You have raised a lot of good points here. It seems that dmb's
>>>>> argument is with Ant McWatt as much as it is with you though for some
>>>>> reason he hasn't acknowledged that fact. dmb will, as always, have a
>>>>> tough time articulating what particular sort of relativism--some
>>>>> dangerous sort?--that applies to you but not equally well to James and
>>>>> Pirsig.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Steve
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>> 
>>>> It's not Ant's quote about truth within the MoQ alone.  It's RMP 
>>>> discussing multiple truths.  It's also the correlation made between 
>>>> Buddhism's conventional reality and static quality.  Conventional reality 
>>>> is most always described as the relative, practical everyday truth.  I 
>>>> doubt if dmb makes any sense, even to himself, if he doesn't conflate and 
>>>> confuse epistemological relativism and cultural relativism.  And his 
>>>> presenting an unsourced definition that begs the question?  Wow!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
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