Marsha, I think that if you question your assertion of the Permanence of change and impermanence your certainty may dissolve. It is a form of clinging.
It is not this, not that. Remember? It is a jump. It is the sound "Boing, Boing, Boing" without any concepts associated with it. It is Mu. It is Here, it is Now. It is cooking in your home town. You can't read about It in books. You can create It all on your own. Cheers, Mark On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:53 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 5, 2011, at 2:31 AM, "Carl Thames" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "118" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:41 PM >> Subject: Re: [MD] The Relativist's journey >> >> >>> So, let me ask you a different question: >>> What is it deep down inside you (and possibly many others) that causes >>> you to want to compare everything? >> >> I've spent some time on this one, and I've pretty much come to the >> realization that we're wired for pattern recognition. When we see something >> we've never experienced before, we immediately try to categorize it based on >> those things we HAVE experienced. I think this is part of a survival thing >> with us. We can tell at a glance if "x" is dangerous to us or not. If we >> take the time, we can refine that which allows us to tell a garter snake >> from a crate snake, but you get the idea. Our first reaction is SNAKE = >> BAD! Pattern recognition. Of interest, I have heard the argument that the >> reason time seems to pass more quickly as we age is that we have a larger >> catalog, and we don't have to spend time figuring things out. After enough >> years, we've "been there, done that" and already know what it's about, so we >> don't slow down and think about it. If we allow ourselves to become lazy, >> (guilty) we do the same thing with concepts. We've heard something >> similiar, therefore we c > ategorize the new idea into an old category. >> >>> No, not a trick question, a question requesting understanding on my >>> part. Relativism is only one way of looking at things, imo. >> >> No, not a trick question, and IMHO a very relevant one. How do we handle a >> confrontation with DQ? Do we immediately assign it to an SQ value? I think >> we do, or we couldn't comprehend it at all. >> >>> Cheers, >>> Mark >> >> Just another opinion.... >> >> Carl > > > Consciousness, conceptualization, and thus begins the process of reification: > self and other. Disconnecting the experience as process, freezing it against > the process of change and impermanence, disconnecting it from its parts to > make it independently exist, isolating it from its relationships to see it as > an independent manageable thing or concept. > > Mark may have another perspective. > > > Marsha > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
