Hi Horse,

I watch a lot of British D.I. programs; I thought the term "Gov" was a sign of 
respect for authority. -  I'll do my best.


Marsha



On Mar 10, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Horse <[email protected]> wrote:

> Or maybe you're just doing what you usually do - which is to avoid any 
> meaningful discussion about the MoQ.
> 
> On 10/03/2012 18:54, MarshaV wrote:
>> Yes, Gov!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Horse<[email protected]>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> Why do you continue to deliberately and wilfully misinterpret what I have 
>>> said?
>>> 
>>> I have not banned anyone from talking about the intellectual level - I 
>>> merely put a limit on the number of posts per day for discussing the SOLAQI 
>>> nonsense due to Bo swamping ALL discussions on the subject and refusing to 
>>> stop being a pain in the arse and I spent a considerable amount of time 
>>> doing so. In the end Bo threw a hissy fit and removed himself from the 
>>> discussion because he couldn't have his own way and refused to listen. His 
>>> stupidity, arrogance and childishness are his problem not mine.
>>> If you check the archives you will see that I did not ban anyone from 
>>> discussing their interpretation of the Intellectual level so please stop 
>>> trying to make out that I'm some sort of dictator who bans people and 
>>> discussions on this forum just because I don't want to hear them or I 
>>> disagree with what they say.
>>> 
>>> If I think someone is behaving inappropriately I ask them to stop and if 
>>> they refuse then I remove them. Simple. It is my job as owner and 
>>> administrator of this forum to try and keep the discussion to Pirsigs MoQ 
>>> and if forum members don't like the way I do it then that's too bad.
>>> 
>>> If you want to discuss your interpretation of the Intellectual level that's 
>>> fine - however, if you want to discuss SOLAQI (or whatever acronym Bo has 
>>> decide on) then limit your posts as I have requested. If you're not 
>>> discussing SOLAQI (or some sort of disguised version of it) then feel free 
>>> to discuss your ideas - however I would ask that you don't try and tell 
>>> everyone that Pirsig is an idiot or a traitor to the MoQ or doesn't 
>>> understand his own ideas etc.
>>> 
>>> Are we clear now or will I have to repeat myself yet again in a few weeks 
>>> time?
>>> 
>>> Horse
>>> 
>>> On 10/03/2012 16:32, MarshaV wrote:
>>>> Hi Ron,
>>>> 
>>>> I am not sure that there is a clear definition or consensus concerning the 
>>>> Intellectual Level, and unless Horse opens up the topic, I have been 
>>>> banned from discussing my interpretation/definition.  Further, we live in 
>>>> a global world where Eastern and Western philosophies might be brought 
>>>> together and moved forward, so I see no need to exclude either's 
>>>> point-of-view.  As far as I know Eastern philosophy is not enlightenment 
>>>> or nirvana, but is suppose to move one's understanding towards that state. 
>>>>  They struggle with overcoming the same self/object reification that the 
>>>> West struggles with.  At least, imho.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2012, at 10:06 AM, X Acto wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha to Dan:
>>>>>  Then intellectual static patterns of value are a particular category of 
>>>>> pattern that began to emerge with the ancient Greeks and functions in a 
>>>>> particular manner:  mathematics, philosophy, science, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ron sez:
>>>>> Although this was well said I think it can be summed up more generally by 
>>>>> pointing to
>>>>> the value of reflection, particularly reflection apon which concepts are 
>>>>> best and
>>>>> more importantly, our reasons for valuing them as the distinction marking 
>>>>> what western
>>>>> culture means by the term "intellectual" and more precisely what our 
>>>>> group means  by
>>>>> the distinction of an intellectual "level".
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ..
>>>> 
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