Hi Marsha and all,

Metaphysics!  In etymology metaphysics acknowledges a discipline beyond
physics.  

Pirsig suggested that indefinable/definable DQ/SQ manifests reality.

Physics which uses defined mathematics for describing existence cannot
embrace logically an indefinable principle.  Metaphysics MOQ accepts the
indefinable principle DQ.

Going round and round on that merry-go-round forces my attention to
existence.  IMHO Metaphysics is a description of Evolution as levels in
existence.  

Pirsig's metaphysics DQ/SQ seem to describe the existing level DQ, as
knowable while remaining indefinable.  Off the top of my head levels in
existence seem to answer what is evolution?  The power of metaphysics.

IMHO If you can know DQ you can observe that it manifests levels in
existence.  Reality is not a one size fits all existence.  Metaphysics
accepting an indefinable element Dq opens the door to the reality of
evolution as levels in existence DQ/SQ.

Awareness DQ trumps mathematical logic.

Joe  




On 6/21/12 4:41 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> If evolution is the pattern that interests you than my post had little to
> offer you.  What is your understanding of 'metaphysics'?
> 
> 
> Marsha 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 21, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Joseph  Maurer <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Marsha,
>> 
>> Metaphysics formats knowledge.  How is it possible for DQ, a metaphysical
>> term, to be unknowable?  That would place it outside Metaphysics into a
>> basket of Faith.  Indivisible could be a characteristic of indefinable?  For
>> me to see reality as indivisible negates evolution, and I am not ready to
>> make that jump.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/21/12 1:44 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dynamic Quality isn't any thing.  It isn't 'dark night', or chaos; it is
>>> unpatterned; it is indivisible, undefinable and unknowable.
>> 
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