Hi Ron, If 'conditional' is better from your point-of-view, by all means use 'conditional'. I prefer to think of static patterns of value as hypothetical (supposed but not necessarily real or true.) Once one accepts the MoQ's fundamental principal that the world is nothing but Value, then 'expanded rationality' occurs when an individual transforms the natural tendency to reify self and world into the natural tendency to hold all static patterns of value to be hypothetical. By using 'hypothetical' I think there is less of a tendency toward intellectual arrogance. Understanding static (patterned) value as hypothetical acknowledges the incompleteness of what we know and makes room for additional inquiry with new possibilities; it promotes an attitude of fearless curiosity: gumption. It moves one away from thinking of entities as existing inherently and independent of consciousness.
Marsha On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:25 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > [Marsha] > > If I might offer my personal opinion. I have respect for static (patterned) > value; static patterned value is my life. But, for me, holding patterns as > hypothetical is honoring, above all, their fundamental DQ nature. It's not > merely a theoretical opinion. > > > [Ron] > Well, that is a relief because the use of the term hypothetical kinda implies > that they are merely hypothesis and are strictly theoretical. > As I mentioned before, the term "conditional" seems to be more the aim of > what you are attempting to get across in this regard, but hey > I'm not trying to be nit-picky just trying to help gain some clarity in what > you mean. > > > > On Sep 20, 2012, at 1:57 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> Mark had said] >> OK, lets say that Truth as discussed from the Quality perspective, an >> Quality as discussed from the Truth perspective are the same thing, as you >> state. How about if we discuss Quality? Are you game for this. This is, >> after all, MOQ. >> >> How would you present Quality to open the discussion, I have tried many >> times. Don't give us this undefinable nonsense for the same can be said of >> Truth. Let us discuss a metaphysics based on Quality. What does this mean >> to you? >> >> [Ron replies] >> Thats right Mark, it points to discussions regarding the subject matter of >> Dynamic Quality. Definitions, descriptions and explanations >> are provisional, they must be open to revision because the test of any >> definition, description and explanation is the Dynamic flow of >> experience. Now, to say all definition, description and explanation is >> "hypothetical" is to only look at one side of the coin so to speak, >> It ignores this provisional nature and the test of it's value, in fact it >> ignores the very nature of value itself. >> >> A metaphysics based on Quality is the development of meaning in experience >> it is the perpetual inquirey of what are the best things >> in life. >> >> >> .. >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
