Interesting question Marsha, You know how Quality is the ultimate source of everything, all static quality, patterns are just NOT truth, vaues, not perfect and all that. Betterness is the business as usual. As long as there is a possibility for betterness, life will continue. Cosmological evolution IS a perpetual search for perfection.
Perfection IMO would be the state when something is perfect, absolutely perfect and no longer can't be better. That's why perfection is boring. It will never happen, just as Static Quality will never be like the Quality itself, therefore we cannot define Quality. Truth will always be something else than what you see. BUT intellectually, we can understand that there is something out there that we can call truth, or just Quality, that is what MOQ is about. There is no real contradiction between you and dmb, you two just look at it from different positions. Every day we experience how our static patterns meet the dynamic quality by all the imperfections in our ordinary life, bad sleep, bad weather, bad news in the morning paper, ugly coffe, a too fast hug from a family member, dog shit in the aisle, broken shoe ties, bird shit on the car, traffic jam, rising gas prices and so on. Evil mail on the office, no one confirming that you deep inside got a warm heart until one happy day the flood is overwhelming until next drought appears. Love is nothing without the experience from lack of love. Still longing for a perfect world? All these imperfections can be systematically classified to belong to one of these 7 main centres of your human static pattern. Each centre (chakra) has 6 poles in 3 dimensions, regarding the volume, form and expression. 6 times 7 is 42. Plus 1 is 43... It is a lot to be aware of. Excellence is just something in between it all, close to perfection. Freedom means that the road to UNEXCELLENCE is always open, too. Ahh, I know I could have put this better but, someone else calls for my attention, right now.. best wishes Jan Anders 19 sep 2012 kl. 14.31 skrev MarshaV: > > > J-A, > > Excellent! Please explain how you know perfection is boring? Isn't that > bit-of-knowing a hypothetical? Or how is a comparison with what is "better > than anything we know" known to you? > > Marsha > > > > On Sep 19, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> No no no, there are 42 main directions, like Up, Down, South and Green, but >> as you know, no one is perfect, and perfection is just too boring. >> Excellence is still better than anything we know. >> >> J A >> >> >> 19 sep 2012 kl. 13.50 skrev MarshaV: >> >>> >>> J-A >>> >>> >>> I know it has passed though your consciousness that all static patterns of >>> value can be replaced by 42. :-) >>> >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>> On Sep 19, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Jan Anders Andersson wrote: >>> >>>> Marsha, like >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for the link, even if it's just hypothetical..:-) >>>> >>>> >>>> J A, sort of... >>>> >>>> 19 sep 2012 kl. 11.37 skrev MarshaV: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> An American businessman was visiting a Mexican coastal village and >>>>> encountered a fisherman on the dock. He had just unloaded his stash of >>>>> tuna for the day, and the businessman asked him how long it took him to >>>>> catch them. >>>>> >>>>> The fisherman said, “Just a little while.” >>>>> >>>>> The businessman then asked why he didn’t stay out longer and catch more, >>>>> to which the fisherman responded he didn’t need more. He had caught >>>>> enough for his family’s needs. >>>>> >>>>> “But what do you do now, with all the rest of your time?” asked the >>>>> businessman. >>>>> >>>>> “I take a nap, I play with my children, take siesta with my wife, Maria, >>>>> and I walk to the village in the evening, sip a little wine, and play >>>>> music with my friends,” said the fisherman. >>>>> >>>>> The American scoffed. “I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should >>>>> spend more time fishing and with the proceeds buy a bigger boat. With the >>>>> proceeds from the bigger boat, you could buy a fleet of boats and open >>>>> your own cannery. You would control the product, processing, and >>>>> distribution. You would need to leave this small village and move to >>>>> Mexico City, then Los Angeles, and eventually New York, where you would >>>>> run your expanding enterprise.” >>>>> >>>>> When the fisherman asked how long all that would take, the businessman >>>>> said, “Fifteen to twenty years. And then you could sell your company >>>>> stock to the public and become a millionaire.” >>>>> >>>>> “But what then?” asked the fisherman. >>>>> >>>>> “Then you could retire, move to a coastal fishing village, fish a little, >>>>> nap a lot, play with your kids, enjoy time with your wife, and go to the >>>>> village at night to play music with your friends.” >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is an example of how our assumptions tumble out of us, beckoned or >>>>> not. We enter into a situation, assess it from our own personal >>>>> worldview, and generously offer suggestions for improvement that were >>>>> never invited in the first place. In The Fifth Discipline, Peter Senge >>>>> writes: “Mental models are deeply ingrained assumptions that influence >>>>> how we understand the world and how we take action. We do not “have” >>>>> mental models. We “are” our mental models…The discipline of working with >>>>> mental models starts with turning the mirror inward; learning to unearth >>>>> our internal pictures of the world, to bring them to the surface and hold >>>>> them rigorously to scrutiny.” >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> (Phillips, Jan, 'The Art of Original Thinking – The Making of a Thought >>>>> Leader') >>>>> >>>>> http://www.janphillips.com/downloads/ArtofOriginalThinking.pdf >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marsha: >>>>> I see "mental models" very close to "static patterns of value". The last >>>>> sentence in the above also sets forward a working solution. It is not to >>>>> merely accept the thoughts flowing through our consciousness as 'real' or >>>>> 'true', (whether that be a "creative self", "the pragmatic theory of >>>>> truth" or "truth is an idea which represents experience beautifully"). >>>>> That's the NAIVE reality accepted by human beings that Lila points to in >>>>> Chapter 14. I'll take holding static pattens of value as hypothetical >>>>> (supposed but not neccesarily real or true) any day of the week, rather >>>>> than be one that would act destructively to prove their world-view to be >>>>> the "correct one" and use foece to have everyone else accept it. It's >>>>> analogy, boys, merely analogy; you do not hold some objective truth. You >>>>> talk about the MoQ's new conception of truth, yet defend it like it is >>>>> absolute. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
