Andre,
In the past, when dmb has been the least bit challenged on any point, Steve Peterson on free will and David Harding on WJ's pragmatism for example, he's fled faster than a gazelle. And in his recent post, dmb didn't make any point at all! Andre, who do you and dmb think you're kidding? There was no "The point dmb and Pirsig are making..." Dmb seems to be reluctant to make a point. Marsha On Nov 9, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Andre Broersen <[email protected]> wrote: > Jan Anders to dmb: > Yes, and a gentleman with a sound intellect are pretty aware of that his > intellect is dependant upon the social, the biological and inorganic level > and that these levels must be treated well to ensure the quality of the > intellectual level. Therefore it can be a good choice to release the > intellectual control over the earlier levels sometime in between. > > Andre: > Is that all you can produce JA? Is this really your response to the quotes > dmb has presented to you from LILA. Is this realy your response to the > writings of Pirsig? Is this your response to the behaviour, for example, of > every fucking banker in the West lately striking up his and her bonusses for > leading us, ordinary citizens, into one crisis after another and adhering to > the wonderful rule, (now well ingrained in the banking and financial system > and markets) that the losses are to be socialized (i.e. paid for by the > masses)and the profits privatized (i.e.deposited in one's private pocket)? > > No wonder he reflected at and on the end of the twentieth century as being a > moral rustbelt. And this is only one indication thereof. You seem to support > this sort of behaviour. > > Don't use the excuse of picking up barladies in the mean time. You seem to > miss the point completely. What you do is propagate the current moral > dustbelt as being morally inevitable and therefore morally acceptable. And > you do this when it suits you. When it suits you because you simply cannot > and will not stop your wife from licking your ears!!! Don't give us the > 'sometime in between' bit JA. > > And in the mean time the ordinary peoples of Europe are taken to the > slaughterhouse in an effort to safeguard the disastrous financial karma it > has invoked on itself for present and future generations. > > The point dmb and Pirsig are making is the moral goodness of intellectual > patterns dominating social and biological patterns. In other words it is good > for social and biological patterns to be subordinate to intellectual > patterns. Currently some intellectual patterns are subordinated to serve > social (financial) interests. This seems to be an accepted moral code (which > you defend)in the same way what held the Victorian pattern together. > > However, it is just a social code, not an intellectual one. "They called it > morals, but really it was just a social code. As a code it was just like > their ornamental cast-iron furniture: expensive looking, cheaply made, > brittle, cold, and uncomfortable." > > And if that is not a nice description of twenty-first century money (as > opposed to the Marxian notion where money was linked to labour... it being > designated as 'frozen labour'which it is). No,mere numbers on a digital sheet > of paper with no connection at all to any form of experience/endeavour...no > connection at all to moral human activity. > > And you excuse this because you cannot and will not prevent your wife from > licking your ears? Oh, you have the old Christian excuse: the mind is willing > but the flesh is weak...rust and dustbelt put together... that's what your > response is. Disappointing to say the least. > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
