Hi MarshaV, When describing existence 'analogy' is not a verifiable metaphysical term of individuality DQ/SQ.
Joe On 12/23/12 11:08 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Joe, > > Analogy!!! > > > Marsha. > > > > On Dec 23, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Marsha, >> >> Existence is prior to value? I accept DQ/SQ in existence. The question >> raised: How can I experience the indefinable? I posit DQ without SQ in >> metaphysical terms and it seems that the unity of existence is compromised >> by a definition viewing definable/indefinable levels in existence. >> >> In physical terms the boundaries of existence are blurred. Existence seems >> to be flexible e.g., snow and water. Does that indicate that evolution >> involves a metaphysical discussion of levels in existence? >> >> Value is a relationship. MOQ speaks differently of value in >> indefinable/definable terms for quality reality instead of SOM duality in >> Existence! >> >> Joe >> >> >> On 12/23/12 12:35 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Joe, >>> >>> Thank you for your humble opinion, and thank you for the opportunity to fix >>> my >>> statement: >>> >>> The metaphysical system that I accept is that the world is nothing but Value >>> which can be experienced as patterned (static) and unpatterned (Dynamic). >>> >>> >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 22, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi MarshaV, >>>> >>>> IMHO you are equating value and existence. How is existential DQ different >>>> from existential SQ? Definition! Can the definition of a DQ/SQ >>>> metaphysics >>>> encompass reality? >>>> >>>> IMHO something is omited by definition Indefinable DQ! The awareness of >>>> DQ >>>> is indefinable. I call an aspect of awareness indefinable? How is >>>> awareness different from a knowing which embraces indefinable DQ/SQ? >>>> >>>> My answer is that I experience the indefinable. Tie individual, >>>> experience, >>>> and reality together. DQ/SQ. There are levels in existence! >>>> >>>> Joe >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/22/12 5:52 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>> >>>>> The metaphysical system that I accept is that the world is nothing but >>>>> Value >>>>> which can be experienced as patterned (Static) and unpatterned (Dynamic). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marsha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi MarshaV and All, >>>>>> >>>>>> This statement requires a very careful exposition. Life manifests >>>>>> Dynamic >>>>>> Quality. The metaphysics leading to the self, perceiving death, like >>>>>> heroism, can be horribly misled. The question of behavior in a >>>>>> dynamic/static environment must look at death as static, nothing will >>>>>> change. All heroic dynamic decisions will be negated to the individual in >>>>>> a >>>>>> lack of existence. >>>>>> >>>>>> How in the hell did I ever get on this tangent? >>>>>> >>>>>> Joe >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/20/12 12:24 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "To the extent that one's behavior is controlled by static patterns of >>>>>>> quality >>>>>>> it is without choice. But to the extent that one follows Dynamic >>>>>>> Quality, >>>>>>> which is undefinable, one's behavior is free." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>>> Archives: >>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
