Hi Ant, Be assured I will make an effort not to reference any of the Buddhist commentary from your Textbook or PhD dissertation again. It's a shame though, I thought you and RMP offered some interesting insight.
Marsha On Feb 6, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Ant McWatt wrote: > > Marsha, > > Above all, it's clarity of thought that I'm after here so you'll need to put > that quote from David Buchanan in context. (Though, as it stands, it still > sounds to me like the static perspective of the everyday world as provided in > LILA). > > As with Keef (now you should see the type of tea he has - it has a kick to > it, let's say) who shares my sympathy towards Anglo-American philosophers and > philosophologists (the devils who need to be thrown out of these ivory > towers), I have sympathy both with the Dynamic viewpoint you tend to take in > the conversations here and the static viewpoint that David takes. I have to > have sympathy with both of you as you're both excellent hosts! ;-) > > Seriously, as you implied in your last response to me in the "self" thread > yesterday, both perspectives are useful in the right context. I just have a > feeling (feeling? is that the best term to use here; probably not) that the > static viewpoint is the default one in LILA and so should be the default one > here. It's MOQ Discuss; not Mystic Discuss. If you want to use the Dynamic > viewpoint, the Tetralemma (Paul Turner's adopted "baby") or whatever esoteric > perpective that Scott Roberts was going on about years ago (if I sound too > dismissive of the latter - I shouldn't be because it IS worth at least being > aware of these various perspectives), these viewpoints should be qualified > before use. It help keeps that little intellect of mine clear about what's > going on; which metaphorical trees are where and in which metaphysical or > mystical forest. > > To use another metaphor, see it as set of three or four paintings that are > about the same subject (like that absolutely lovely painting you gave me of > Bob derived from that photo of him as a three year old) but painted in three > or four different styles; e.g. think of how Van Gogh, Picasso, Joseph Turner > and Monet would have each made of that same photograph (when they were on top > of their game). MOQ Discuss is a gallery devoted to one style, it just helps > visitors see what is going on if "special exhibitions" are clearly marked as > such. > > Anyway, that's enough preaching. As an apology for using his name in vain > here (which, of course is a public forum), I'll send Keef some of that Golden > Monkey tea you like though he'll probably end up smoking it... > > Best wishes, > > Anthony > > > > > > > >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 05:00:19 -0500 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [MD] Sympathy for the Devil >> >> >> Hi Ant, >> >> On Feb 5, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Ant McWatt <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> So, what I'm trying to do here (rather badly it seems) is to clarify these >>> two perspectives. From what I was reading in this thread - and >>> elsewhere - David Buchanan takes the conventional static perspective of the >>> MOQ (as laid out in LILA) while Marsha tends to take a Dynamic >>> "World of Buddhas" perspective. As I said above, by not qualifying the >>> latter perspective, it confuses things and results in people >>> talking over each other; sometimes even being a little rude and frustrated. >> >> Hmmmm. >> >> "I conclude by making a case that James and Pirsig are offering an >> empirically based form of philosophical mysticism that is comparable to a >> non-theistic religion like Buddhism." >> (dmb) >> >> >> Really? >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
