Ahem! the dutch was a mating ritual,....but in an english environment it looks and sounds like a social handicap. Yes of course , we will write in english from now on.
THx horse Adrie 2013/4/2 Horse <[email protected]> > Ahem! English please :) > > Horse > > > On 02/04/2013 09:41, Eddo Rats wrote: > >> Hoi Adri >> >> Je mag dit niet als kritiek zien, Eddo,want ik zie je interesse in >> filosofie en dat is aan te moedigen maar het komt nogal wikipedia-achtig >> over allemaal.Dat is ook niet af te wijzen maar mag niet het enige zijn >> als >> intellectuele onderbouw. >> >> Iedereen filosofeert zo op zijn eigen manier :D Mijn toepassingen van >> golfvergelijkingen in de filosofie zijn wel in mijn eigen creativiteit >> ontstaan. Dat komt omdat ik een academisch getrainde ingenieur ben. Ik heb >> het gebruikt om mijzelf op die manier uit een situatie van mental illness >> te denken. >> >> Ik zie eigenlijk meer mogelijkheden voor deze manier van denken, vooral >> wetenschappelijk. Ik denk bv aan aansluiting vinden bij het observer >> effect >> probleem in de quantum mechanica en een verklaring voor de tijdverschillen >> in de neurologische experimenten van Libet. >> >> Tot nu toe sta ik, zover ik me bewust ben, alleen in mijn ideeen. Als jij >> denkt te weten dat er een high end segment in de filosofische gemeenschhap >> is die dit soort ideeen wel begrijpen zou ik graag weten wie dat zijn en >> waar ik ze kan vinden. >> >> groet Eddo >> >> >> 2013/4/2 ADRIE KINTZIGER <[email protected]> >> >> hi , Eddo. >>> >>> Eddo wrote.... >>> >>> But what is reality? From my point of view does the immaginairy >>> information >>> I experience as real(my consciousness) only exist in my mind as a >>> immaginairy information difference between what I already subjectively am >>> and what I objectively encounter every moment. Thats the reason why I >>> resonate with my surrounding world in just a limited way. It's our >>> purpose >>> to resonate more because that increases our sensational experiences. >>> That's >>> our will or driving force so to speak. How I understand these increasing >>> decreasing sensations as information is completely relative to what I >>> already am. >>> >>> Adrie >>> >>> Idd Baudrillard,maar deze standpunten zijn van geen enkele hoogte of >>> intellectuele draagkracht meer in deze tijden. >>> Onzin is het echter niet compleet,en sommige dingen zijn van belang. >>> Je moet echter weten de juiste abstracties te maken en een betere >>> synthese. >>> >>> -een voorbeeld >>> ieder individu betrekt zijn realiteitsbeeld uit de wisselwerking van het >>> 'zelf'' met zijn directe omgeving en de andere denkers... >>> de andere 'zelven',....de omgeving en de wisselwerking zijn even bepalend >>> als de interpretatie ervan en de relatieve draagkracht van de vrije wil. >>> Baudrillard noteerde slechts wat al geweten was maar misbegreep het zelf. >>> >>> Dit terzijde. >>> >>> I did read your proposals to import math in language, to import >>> wavefunctions like resonance into filosophical toughts...its Not a bad >>> idea >>> however it is an existing idea that gains a lot of intellectual weight in >>> high end philosophy. >>> >>> In onze context hier echter kom je er nergens mee simpelweg omdat veel >>> zogezegde filosofen nauwelijks het verschil begrijpen tussen denotatie en >>> connotatie....met andere woorden , nog aan het prille begin staan van het >>> leren begrijpen van taal. >>> Je mag dit niet als kritiek zien, Eddo,want ik zie je interesse in >>> filosofie en dat is aan te moedigen maar het komt nogal wikipedia-achtig >>> over allemaal.Dat is ook niet af te wijzen maar mag niet het enige zijn >>> als >>> intellectuele onderbouw. >>> >>> groeten, adrie(belg) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2013/4/2 Eddo Rats <[email protected]> >>> >>> Hi Joe and Antony and everybody else >>>> >>>> you got me there Joe :-D I am just, like many philosophhers, a >>>> >>> theoretical >>> >>>> system/map builder, I was just speaking from my baudrillard map point of >>>> view. >>>> >>>> But what is reality? From my point of view does the immaginairy >>>> >>> information >>> >>>> I experience as real(my consciousness) only exist in my mind as a >>>> immaginairy information difference between what I already subjectively >>>> am >>>> and what I objectively encounter every moment. Thats the reason why I >>>> resonate with my surrounding world in just a limited way. It's our >>>> >>> purpose >>> >>>> to resonate more because that increases our sensational experiences. >>>> >>> That's >>> >>>> our will or driving force so to speak. How I understand these increasing >>>> >>> or >>> >>>> decreasing sensations as information is completely relative to what I >>>> already am. >>>> >>>> Eddo >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/4/2 Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> Hi Eddo Rats, >>>>> >>>>> How can a moment be theoretical? If a moment is imaginary it can be >>>>> described as an indefinable reality of infinite possibilities. If the >>>>> moment is real it is existing reality. >>>>> >>>>> Joe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4/1/13 2:33 PM, "Eddo Rats" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> joe, >>>>>> >>>>>> every moment now is theoretical a moment of infinite possibillities. >>>>>> >>>>> for >>>> >>>>> some part we trust to know what to expect. I would call that SQ the >>>>>> >>>>> other >>>> >>>>> part that we can't trust is DQ. and of course are the things we least >>>>>> expect to happen the most emotional. >>>>>> >>>>>> Eddo >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/4/1 Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Eddo Rats, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Welcome. I am not a mathematician. I appreciate that >>>>>>> >>>>>> "Mathematically >>> >>>> approachable" is a description for rigid logic. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> DQ is indefinable. I have to tweak my consciousness to try to find >>>>>>> something in myself which validates a perception of the indefinable. >>>>>>> >>>>>> I >>>> >>>>> cannot define Love. I accept Love to represent an intensity of >>>>>>> >>>>>> indefinable >>>>> >>>>>> DQ. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joe >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/31/13 2:26 PM, "Eddo Rats" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My definition of quality is: Quality represents "That" where I can >>>>>>>> identify >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> with. >>>>>>> The trick in understanding this definition is in the two >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> dimensional >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> character of the word "Identification". >>>>>>> You can Identify a "What" >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and you can Identify "With" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> "What" is represented by the information >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> dimension. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> "With" is represented by the sensation (emotion?) dimension. >>>>>>> This >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> is all Mathematicly approachable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/**listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-**moqtalk.org<http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org> >>>>>>> Archives: >>>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/**pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.**org/<http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/> >>>>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.**html <http://moq.org/md/archives.html> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/**listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-**moqtalk.org<http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org> >>>>>> Archives: >>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/**pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.**org/<http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/> >>>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.**html <http://moq.org/md/archives.html> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/**listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-**moqtalk.org<http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org> >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/**pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.**org/<http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/> >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.**html <http://moq.org/md/archives.html> >>>>> >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/**listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-**moqtalk.org<http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org> >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/**pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.**org/<http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/> >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.**html <http://moq.org/md/archives.html> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> parser >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/**listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-**moqtalk.org<http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org> >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/**pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.**org/<http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/> >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.**html <http://moq.org/md/archives.html> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/**listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-**moqtalk.org<http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org> >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/**pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.**org/<http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/> >> http://moq.org/md/archives.**html <http://moq.org/md/archives.html> >> >> > -- > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > — Frank Zappa > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/**listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-**moqtalk.org<http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org> > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/**pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.**org/<http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/> > http://moq.org/md/archives.**html <http://moq.org/md/archives.html> > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
