Hi x-man, On Apr 7, 2013, at 10:36 AM, X Acto wrote:
> Marsha: > How about "It's all a ghost,...". Isn't the law of non-contradiciton one of > the laws of logic? "Ghosts and more ghosts." > > Ron: > What gives those ghosts meaning is their neccessity in the immediate now of > experience. The law of non-contradiction > is the first rule of meaning, you re either more prone to act apon it or > less. > > > If all of reality is simply a ghost of the human imagination, how does the > explanation account for the wherefore of human > imagination? > The human imagination is the response of an organism to its environment, but > what do we mean by "organism" and > "environment" or should we be looking at the word between them, "reponse" . > > A ghost could only be a response to dynamic quality, lets go a bit further > and say it is a response OF dynamic quality. > > Well that renders those ghosts has having something of the nature of dynamic > quality, and if anything should be > gained by the position "static quality is dynamic quality" is that those > ghosts are about as real as the term"real" can mean, > no? Marsha: If RMP can say that it's all ghosts and human imagination and also state that Isaac Newton is a very good ghost, than I can say static patterns are all illusion and also state that they are conventionally meaningful. There are examples where the law of non-contradiction does not hold, you might reconsider if it should be called the first rule of meaning. I wouldn't consider it the first rule of meaning. And even to the saying that things have to agree with common sense, we can call up Einstein's "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." When David Harding asked me if the patterns of the Intellectual Level matter, I answered "Yes." I believe they do matter. So yes, those ghosts (illusions) are about as conventionally real as "real" can mean. Of course that's if you NEED the kind of certainty a word like "real" suggests. Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
