Hi Joe,

You're one your own.  I am not sure what you are talking about.
 
 
Marsha
 

On Apr 7, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Joseph  Maurer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Marsha V and All,
> 
> SOM's theory of how we know things was through abstraction of the essence
> from reality by the mind, giving it intentional existence in the mind using
> a definable word form from a template of previous experience.
> 
> MOQ, Pirsig suggests knowledge is the direct experience of reality  DQ/SQ.
> Dreams can follow that experiential reality, creating analogues mocking
> reality?
> 
> How can I know indefinable DQ?  For me consciousness seems to be the only
> reality that identifies a capability of an indefinable direct experience of
> DQ.  Dreams are interesting and creative mocking consciousness.  They seem
> so real.  Nightmares!
> 
> Joe 
> 
> 
> On 4/6/13 9:50 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> What do you mean by 'direct perception'?   To the question "What is that?",
>> the mind may adjust the visual data, but not apply language?  Or do you have 
>> a
>> different explanation?  
> 
> 
> 
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