Hi Eddo,

Yes, there are different mythos' and an isolated Buddhist monastery would have 
there own. 

When Phaedrus first went to India he'd wondered why, if this passage of 
enlightenment into pure Dynamic Quality was such a universal reality, did it 
only occur in certain parts of the world and not others? At the time he'd 
thought this was proof that the whole thing was just Oriental religious 
baloney, the equivalent of a magic land called 'heaven' that Westerners go to 
if they are good and get a ticket from the priests. Now he saw that 
enlightenment is distributed in all parts of the world just as the color yellow 
is distributed in all parts of the world, but some cultures accept it and 
others screen out recognition of it."

          (LILA, Chapter 32) 

Seems to me an experience of sudden awakening in a culture that does not accept 
enlightenment or take serious talk about enlightenment would be to experience 
madness or insanity.  

I like what you said concerning the separation of the ego from the notion of 
I-ness.  Not easy in the West where the economics is linked to the ego.
 
 
Marsha


On Jun 28, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Eddo Rats <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Marcha
> 
> Pirsig says:
> "There is only one kind of person, Phædrus said, who accepts or rejects the
> mythos in which he lives. And the definition of that person, when he has
> rejected the mythos, Phædrus said, is "*insane*." To go outside the mythos
> is to become *insane*. —
> 
> The lecture gives the layering of Mythos/nomos/logos Through the eyes of
> foucault where mythos is most dynamic and logos least dynamic within the
> cultural/society boundries.
> 
> Outside the mythos is madness, more dynamic than within the mythos. Outside
> the mythos you are able to create your own independend mythos for yourself.
> 
> In an isolated Buddhist monistary they live for some part according to
> their own Mythos their own separate culture/society with their own
> mythos/nomos/logos layering.
> 
> The Self or ego is bound to a Mythos
> 
> The Enlightend person knows how to separate the notion of I-ness from the
> ego. In this way is an enlightend person not bound by a Mythos. The madman
> doesn't have a clue about this.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Eddo
> 
> 
> 2013/6/28 MarshaV <[email protected]>
> 
>> 
>> Hello Eddo,
>> 
>> Been thinking about enlightenment versus madness?  Madness, another
>> relative term!  I just watched another very basic Foucault video:
>> 
>> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X31ayDsG67U
>> 
>> In a setting such as an isolated Asian, Buddhist monastery, is there
>> madness?
>> 
>> I like the Foucault.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Eddo Rats <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Marcha
>>> 
>>> Quote of Foucault; It is simply in the struggle itself and through it
>> that
>>> positive conditions emerge.
>>> 
>>> In my opinion this struggle includes experiences of madness
>>> 
>>> kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Eddo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2013/6/28 MarshaV <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> A Critical Introduction to Foucault
>>>> 
>>>> http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=FHkZvRQIQ5s
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Conformity?     Fixed?    Interesting!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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