Greetings Eddo,
On Jun 29, 2013, at 6:57 AM, Eddo Rats <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Marsha > > in the conclusion of the sparknotes it says: > Foucault sees art as a way for madness to fight back against the world. > Madness is measured against a moral scale by psychiatrists and > psychologists, but art asks the world disturbing questions and requires > answers. The very fact that it does not support the way that society > represents and treats madness calls society itself into question. Art > attempts to redress the balance between madness and civilization. > > This is what Pirsig did by publishing his Novels. > Pirsig published the mythos that made him enlightend. But I suspect that as > an enlightend person he doesn't care about this mythos anymore. The > published work made him a celebrity and that forces him to deal with his > own Mythos over and over again. Can't be easy. > That's the downside of the effort of merging the mythos of a madman > with the accepted mythos which is on the other hand the only path > out of madness into normality again. Madness? Hmmm, "out of madness into normality"? Normality? Lol. Marsha > Kind regards, > > Eddo > > > 2013/6/29 MarshaV <[email protected]> > >> >> Eddo, >> >> Foucault offers a history of madness, and after reading some of the >> SparkNotes summary, I think I'd like to read it. >> >> http://www.sparknotes.com/philosophy/madnessandciv/context.html >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> On Jun 28, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Eddo Rats <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Marsha and Joseph >>> >>> The madman experiences an ego collapse but in an effort of his ego to >>> survive the ego feeds on DQ to create a new mythos where the ego is king, >>> jezus or napoleon or whatever........... The madman is his ego in the new >>> mythos and believes his new mythos. So the madman is not enlightend and >>> when psychiatrists, with help of medication, helps to connect his ego >> back >>> to the accepted mythos he becomes confused and depressed. Because he >>> intuitively understands that there must be another mythos where he is >> king >>> and that felt good. >>> >>> The enlightend person sees every mythos as an illusion and is detatched >>> from the desire to play a role in the mythos. >>> >>> To Joseph: >>> >>> How to explain to seperate your I-ness from your ego can only be done >>> rational. That's why it never works :D lol >>> I reasoned my way out of my ego to stop the ping-pong game of getting me >>> kicked from inside to outside the mythos and back again and it took me >>> twenty years. This was reasoning while experiencing. from this >> experience i >>> can only communicate the rational part which in it's turn form's again a >>> new mythos :D lol >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Eddo >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2013/6/28 MarshaV <[email protected]> >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Eddo, >>>> >>>> Yes, there are different mythos' and an isolated Buddhist monastery >> would >>>> have there own. >>>> >>>> When Phaedrus first went to India he'd wondered why, if this passage of >>>> enlightenment into pure Dynamic Quality was such a universal reality, >> did >>>> it only occur in certain parts of the world and not others? At the time >>>> he'd thought this was proof that the whole thing was just Oriental >>>> religious baloney, the equivalent of a magic land called 'heaven' that >>>> Westerners go to if they are good and get a ticket from the priests. >> Now he >>>> saw that enlightenment is distributed in all parts of the world just as >> the >>>> color yellow is distributed in all parts of the world, but some cultures >>>> accept it and others screen out recognition of it." >>>> >>>> (LILA, Chapter 32) >>>> >>>> Seems to me an experience of sudden awakening in a culture that does not >>>> accept enlightenment or take serious talk about enlightenment would be >> to >>>> experience madness or insanity. >>>> >>>> I like what you said concerning the separation of the ego from the >> notion >>>> of I-ness. Not easy in the West where the economics is linked to the >> ego. >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
