David, You wrote "With such a definition what Marsha thinks she has done is capture DQ in her definition of static quality." No, I never thought to include DQ in my definition of static patterns of value. I have maintained that Dynamic Quality (unpatterned) is basically "indivisible, undefinable & unknowable" and is best approached by: not this, not that.
Marsha On Aug 3, 2013, at 1:29 AM, David Harding <[email protected]> wrote: >> [Arlo] >> Rather, we get people who have latched onto this rather literally and are >> using it to justify two 'competing' views rather than understanding their >> symbiotic and synthetic co-occurence as, I think, both Pirsig and Northrop >> would've hoped. > > [djh] > Do you honestly think Marsha prefers two 'competing' views? I don't think so. > Case in point is her definition of static patterns including the description > 'ever-changing'. With such a definition what Marsha thinks she has done is > capture DQ in her definition of static quality. In other words - Marsha is > more symbiosis than competition. You'd be right that by thinking she has > captured DQ in her definition of sq, that she has inadvertently destroyed the > quality of Context two and relegated herself to an ugly Context one - but > from her perspective she has already combined the two contexts into her > understanding of the MOQ. In other words - what Marsha fails to appreciate is > the *difference* between the two contexts. They are two very different > perspectives and require different values and assumptions. I don't think > Marsha sees this at all - dismissing the ugliness of static quality from her > perspective as SOM and thus neglects the intellectual values of precision, > clarity an > d the assumption that things exist before we experience them. > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
