[Ian] ... not allowing a narrow SOMist (Context 2) view of intellect to dominate.
[Arlo] I read this, and I think I cried a little. Let's start with Paul's basic definition of "context two". "Context (2) is the articulation of a particular intellectual static pattern - the 'plain of understanding' - of the MOQ." (Turner, 2013) How in the hell do you move from this to saying that context two is "a narrow SOMist view"? Are you, like Bo, so hung up in the idea that intellectual patterns are ipso facto "narrow SOMist" that even the articulation of the MOQ becomes "SOMist" by virtue of being an intellectual pattern? And let's keep in mind what I consider to be a key statement in Paul's paper: "the first context is not so much left behind as providing the epistemological basis for the second, more ontological context." (Turner, 2013) So even if we say that "context two" is about acting in the world (pragmatically) AS IF we are experiencing pre-existing patterns, THIS IS NOT SOM! SOM is the position that subject and objects ARE primary, and this is profoundly different. In context two- informed by context one- we are able to act in a high quality way, but not reproduce the mistake made in an SOM view. As Paul concludes, "It is my view that, with the two contexts combined as phases within its overall development, the MOQ enacts a major expansion and evolution of the modern Western mythos." (Turner, 2013) No where is this paper do I find any support for the idea that 'context two' is 'a narrow SOMist view'. I realize I'm quoting quite a bit, but given your comment and your implication that it aligns with Paul's paper I think its worth it. So one final quote. Context two is "pragmatic high quality explanations of how the world operates in accordance with the assumption that values are the ubiquitous, empirical element of an evolving universe." (Turner, 2013) Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
