Hi David (H), (David M mentioned) David H you reminded us of: "The value of assuming things exist (before) we experience them."
Apart from the hierarchical / privileged use of the word "before" I'd say spot on. Maybe I'd say "as well as", "at appropriate times", rather than simply "before". This is of course the point of the "onticology" view of Levi Bryant, that David M has been drawing to our attention - objects (SPV's) exist democratically in the grand scheme, but neither view 1 or view 2 is privileged out of their context. You also said "DMB and Marsha play a game of name-calling from either perspective." Possibly, but it takes two to tango. Sadly, you join in the name calling with "Marsha fails etc ... " Sure, Marsha "sticks to her position", but not because she's "stuck in her position", rather because she's in an unnecessary battle here on MD. It's a battle we're all involved in beyond MD, because the objective scientistic position (View 2) is the dominating ideology generally (after Zizek). The point of us persevering with promoting MoQ as a better alternative is precisely because it recognises both views and their "radical empirical" relationship - the battle is really unnecessary - just in-fighting - here one would hope. The Pain - When Will It End? Anyway, progress. Ian Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
