Ron,

I do not "shout down" anyone, nor am I "railing against" anything.  For you to 
pose such questions is called begging the question, and I bet you know better.  
And you are scrambling and misrepresenting topics and various aspects of what 
I've said, where if I tried to untangle them I would only create more of a 
mess.  


Marsha



On Aug 9, 2013, at 9:02 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Marsha:
> And, dmb, here is what RMP has to say about meditation:
> 
> RMP:
> "The purpose of mystic meditation is not to remove oneself from experience 
> but to bring one's self closer to it by eliminating stale, confusing, static, 
> intellectual attachments of the past. "
> 
> Marsha:
> There is nothing anti-intellectual suggested in practicing meditation, and it 
> is a practice for working on the 'self' just as RMP explains the _motorcycle 
> maintenance metaphor_ to represent:
> 
> 
> [Ron]
> Well then WHY, when someone here tries to discuss the practice of working on 
> the 'self' all you do is shout them down
> for even considering the 'self' valuable enough to work on? you send post 
> after post about how the self is an illusion
> and not real. A mirage. Why would anyone waste time on a mirage?
> Therefore I am not prone to believe there is honosty in these words.
> 
> Meditation is a good place to start but it certainly does not end there. When 
> one works on the 'self' reflection and development
> of criticle thinking skills are just as valuable if one wishes to better 
> their situation.
> 
> Sounds to me like there is a hell of alot of back peddeling going on, Ian 
> included. Just who are these narrow viewed
> context 2 SOM ers that Ian is always railing against? He sez he agrees with 
> Dave B. but thats not what most of his 
> posts are saying.
> 
> If they indeed feel this way, then exactly WHO are they railing against?
> 
> Marsha, Ian, who are you railing against if you agree?
> 
> ..
> ..
> 
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