Marsha, Meditation is a useful tool in The clarification of thoughts. Reflection is another useful tool To critically examine our actions, It would be misleading to assert Them as antidote (quick fix) or a Mirror ( implying objective detachment ) plus these ideas Don't hang together well with Idea of all static quality is illusion, All perception is confined to the Human condition and to be human Is to exist within social pattern (Self). there is no self as it " really is " There is no " reality" as it " really is". There is no pure perception. That mirror is all ways a funhouse mirror At best. Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 3:09 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Ron, > > "Meditation is the great antidote to > ignorance. It allows us to see > ourselves plainly as we are, as if > standing before a large clear > mirror. Nothing is hidden. > > "If the movements of the body and > mental processes are observed > intelligently and with an open > mind, one soon becomes > aware of the mystery in life." > > http://buddhismnow.com/2013/07/05/first-steps-buddhist-meditation/ > > > > Moron? I am often confronted by my own ignorances, Ron, how about you? If > you have more to say about 'a myth of meditation' being to "perceive reality > as it is", I would be very interested in your comments. In what way do you > think this? Personally, I'd say Ultimate Reality can be equated to Dynamic > Quality, the unpatterned, the indeterminate. But you may have a very > different way of understanding these things, and that's okay and, I'm sure, > interesting. So what do you think? > > http://buddhismnow.com/category/buddhist/cartoons/ > > > > Marsha > > >> On Nov 6, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> My fav explanation >> You are a moron >> Yet not >> Yet a total moron >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 5:53 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi Ron, >>> >>> Maybe you perceive what it isn't. Or maybe you perceive both what it is >>> and what it isn't. Or neither what it is nor what it isn't. Pick your >>> favorite analogy to explain. >>> >>> "Awareness is the key. But what does the word mean to you? To most people, >>> perhaps, it denotes an acknowledgement of that which is going on around >>> them in a general sort of way. In the context of meditation, however, it >>> means ‘waking up’, becoming acutely sensitive, knowing, feeling, living the >>> moment in its pristine state, sensing colours and contours, sounds, >>> textures, smells, recognising tendencies within oneself yet resisting the >>> pull to be controlled by them — this is meditation, to begin with at least." >>> >>> >>> http://buddhismnow.com/2013/07/05/first-steps-buddhist-meditation/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 5:37 AM, Ron Kulp wrote: >>>> >>>> Another myth is that meditation will allow one >>>> To "perceive reality as it is". >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:18 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "With more than seven billion minds active every moment, there are >>>>> endless streams of thoughts in these minds on every aspect of creation. >>>>> Some thoughts perceive reality the way it is, some are imagination, and >>>>> some are simply misconceptions. While there are misconceptions and myths >>>>> about many topics, one of the most popular topics is meditation. Say the >>>>> word, "meditation" and all kinds of images and notions come up. Is this >>>>> for me? I can't sit for long hours. Who wants to meditate anyway? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Here are some of the most common myths about meditation: >>>>> >>>>> "Myth #1: Meditation is concentration >>>>> >>>>> "Meditation is actually deconcentration. Concentration is a result of >>>>> meditation. Concentration requires effort, while meditation is absolute >>>>> relaxation of the mind. Meditation is letting go, and when that happens, >>>>> you are in a state of deep rest. When the mind is relaxed, we can >>>>> concentrate better." >>>>> >>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bhanu-narasimhan/meditation-myths_b_4170727.html > > > ___ > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
