Andre,

It was the best I could do with Ron's rather abbreviated comment:

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On Nov 8, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Ron Kulp wrote:

> Marsha,
> Meditation is a useful tool in
> The clarification of thoughts.
> Reflection is another useful tool
> To critically examine our actions,
> It would be misleading to assert
> Them as antidote (quick fix) or a
> Mirror ( implying objective detachment ) plus these ideas
> Don't hang together well with
> Idea of all static quality is illusion,
> All perception is confined to the
> Human condition and to be human
> Is to exist within social pattern
> (Self). there is no self as it " really is "
> There is no " reality" as it " really is".
> There is no pure perception.
> That mirror is all ways a funhouse mirror
> At best. 

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What kind of meaning would you have me fabricate out of this post?   I'm sure 
he knows the difference between a simile and the verb 'is'.   Beyond that, I am 
not going to guess at the point of his negative statements.  And further beyond 
that, he's entitled to his opinion.  

Don't you have an intellectual topic you'd like to present, rather than your 
normal whining?  


Marsha



On Nov 9, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Andre wrote:

> Marsha to Ron:
> We disagree on a few points, but such is life. The differences, I presume, 
> are due to our different static life histories and present circumstances and 
> present experiences. Do you meditate on a regular basis?
> 
> Ron:
> All the time.
> 
> Andre:
> Yes, what else can Ron do when stretching Lucy's patterns a bit. He gets the 
> following answer from this same pattern:
> 
> 'Maybe you perceive what it isn't.  Or maybe you perceive both what it is and 
> what it isn't.  Or neither what it is nor what it isn't.  Pick your favorite 
> analogy to explain.'
> 
> I mean, that, together with the answer given to Ron above just absolutely 
> kills any decent discussion. A half baked piece of drivel to blame our 
> 'different static life histories' and an even worse attempted rendition of 
> Nagarjuna's tetralemma.
> 
> It's a waste of time talking to Lucy on this discuss. She appears to place 
> herself above learning, above correction, above decency and, to top it all, 
> above the MoQ. Hence her pursuit to move 'beyond' it as previously stated.
> 
> Any question from someone is answered by a question from Lucy making it clear 
> that she is not interested in an answer. It is fake interest. She's only 
> interested in her mirror image.
> 
> What on earth she's doing here I do not know.
> 
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