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> On Nov 8, 2013, at 2:35 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ron, > > We disagree on a few points, but such is life. The differences, I presume, > are due to our different static life histories and present circumstances and > present experiences. Do you meditate on a regular basis? > > > Marsha > > > > > > >> On Nov 8, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Marsha, >> Meditation is a useful tool in >> The clarification of thoughts. >> Reflection is another useful tool >> To critically examine our actions, >> It would be misleading to assert >> Them as antidote (quick fix) or a >> Mirror ( implying objective detachment ) plus these ideas >> Don't hang together well with >> Idea of all static quality is illusion, >> All perception is confined to the >> Human condition and to be human >> Is to exist within social pattern >> (Self). there is no self as it " really is " >> There is no " reality" as it " really is". >> There is no pure perception. >> That mirror is all ways a funhouse mirror >> At best. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 7, 2013, at 3:09 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron, >>> >>> "Meditation is the great antidote to >>> ignorance. It allows us to see >>> ourselves plainly as we are, as if >>> standing before a large clear >>> mirror. Nothing is hidden. >>> >>> "If the movements of the body and >>> mental processes are observed >>> intelligently and with an open >>> mind, one soon becomes >>> aware of the mystery in life." >>> >>> http://buddhismnow.com/2013/07/05/first-steps-buddhist-meditation/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Moron? I am often confronted by my own ignorances, Ron, how about you? If >>> you have more to say about 'a myth of meditation' being to "perceive >>> reality as it is", I would be very interested in your comments. In what >>> way do you think this? Personally, I'd say Ultimate Reality can be >>> equated to Dynamic Quality, the unpatterned, the indeterminate. But you >>> may have a very different way of understanding these things, and that's >>> okay and, I'm sure, interesting. So what do you think? >>> >>> http://buddhismnow.com/category/buddhist/cartoons/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> My fav explanation >>>> You are a moron >>>> Yet not >>>> Yet a total moron >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 5:53 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ron, >>>>> >>>>> Maybe you perceive what it isn't. Or maybe you perceive both what it is >>>>> and what it isn't. Or neither what it is nor what it isn't. Pick your >>>>> favorite analogy to explain. >>>>> >>>>> "Awareness is the key. But what does the word mean to you? To most >>>>> people, perhaps, it denotes an acknowledgement of that which is going on >>>>> around them in a general sort of way. In the context of meditation, >>>>> however, it means ‘waking up’, becoming acutely sensitive, knowing, >>>>> feeling, living the moment in its pristine state, sensing colours and >>>>> contours, sounds, textures, smells, recognising tendencies within oneself >>>>> yet resisting the pull to be controlled by them — this is meditation, to >>>>> begin with at least." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://buddhismnow.com/2013/07/05/first-steps-buddhist-meditation/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marsha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 5:37 AM, Ron Kulp wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Another myth is that meditation will allow one >>>>>> To "perceive reality as it is". >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:18 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "With more than seven billion minds active every moment, there are >>>>>>> endless streams of thoughts in these minds on every aspect of creation. >>>>>>> Some thoughts perceive reality the way it is, some are imagination, and >>>>>>> some are simply misconceptions. While there are misconceptions and >>>>>>> myths about many topics, one of the most popular topics is meditation. >>>>>>> Say the word, "meditation" and all kinds of images and notions come up. >>>>>>> Is this for me? I can't sit for long hours. Who wants to meditate >>>>>>> anyway? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Here are some of the most common myths about meditation: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Myth #1: Meditation is concentration >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Meditation is actually deconcentration. Concentration is a result of >>>>>>> meditation. Concentration requires effort, while meditation is absolute >>>>>>> relaxation of the mind. Meditation is letting go, and when that >>>>>>> happens, you are in a state of deep rest. When the mind is relaxed, we >>>>>>> can concentrate better." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bhanu-narasimhan/meditation-myths_b_4170727.html >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
