LOL :-)
> On Nov 21, 2013, at 12:43 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > In the 17th century Thomas Hobbes wrote: > “For such is the nature of (wo)men, that howsoever they may acknowledge many > others to be more witty, or more eloquent, or more learned; Yet they will > hardly believe there be many so wise as themselves; For they see their own > wit at hand, and other (wo)mens at a distance.” > Leviathan ch XIII. > > >> 21 nov 2013 x kl. 04.10 skrev MarshaV: >> >> >> Socrates: >> “I am wiser than this man; for neither of us really knows anything fine and >> good, but this man thinks he knows something when he does not, whereas I, as >> I do not know anything, do not think I do either. I seem, then, in just this >> little thing to be wiser than this man at any rate, that what I do not know >> I do not think I know either.” >> >> >> >> >>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Dmb , >>> Found the article very intriguing , >>> The heart of the matter of Eros as >>> That dynamic drive has the greatest >>> Meaning in regard to rhetoric when it >>> Is Understood that it's greAtest principle lies within the love of other >>> People. >>> I think your last post to Marsha >>> Really captured the spirit required >>> To accurately understand the full >>> Meaning of "rightness " in speech >>> Listening and thought but she fails >>> To understand this >>> Because she seems to not value >>> Other people or recognize them >>> As moral equals. Dismissive of all >>> But her own experience , rightness >>> And reflection can only refer to a self >>> Centered system of values. >>> >>> Great article need to read it again >>> Before making any more comments. >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 2:34 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> "When Socrates Met Phaedrus: Eros in Philosophy," by Simon Critchley, Hans >>>> Jonas professor of philosophy at the New School for Social Research in New >>>> York. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/03/when-socrates-met-phaedrus-eros-in-philosophy/?_r=0 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "The intention of the “Phaedrus”.., as Alexander Nehemas has convincingly >>>> suggested, is to inflame philosophical eros in Phaedrus that gives him the >>>> ability to distinguish bad rhetoric, of the kinds found in Lysias’s speech >>>> and in Socrates’s first speech, from true rhetoric, of the kind found in >>>> the second speech and then analyzed in the second half of the dialogue." >>>> >>>> >>>> "...The opposite of a self-contradiction, the “Phaedrus” is a performative >>>> self-enactment of philosophy. If eros is a force that shapes the >>>> philosopher, then rhetoric is the art by which the philosopher persuades >>>> the non-philosopher to assume philosophical eros, to incline their soul >>>> towards truth. But to do this does not entail abandoning the art of >>>> rhetoric or indeed sophistry, which teaches that art, although it does so >>>> falsely. Philosophy uses true rhetoric against false rhetoric. The >>>> subject matter of the “Phaedrus” is rhetoric, true rhetoric. ..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
