Dmb , Found the article very intriguing , The heart of the matter of Eros as That dynamic drive has the greatest Meaning in regard to rhetoric when it Is Understood that it's greAtest principle lies within the love of other People. I think your last post to Marsha Really captured the spirit required To accurately understand the full Meaning of "rightness " in speech Listening and thought but she fails To understand this Because she seems to not value Other people or recognize them As moral equals. Dismissive of all But her own experience , rightness And reflection can only refer to a self Centered system of values.
Great article need to read it again Before making any more comments. Ron Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 9, 2013, at 2:34 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]> wrote: > > "When Socrates Met Phaedrus: Eros in Philosophy," by Simon Critchley, Hans > Jonas professor of philosophy at the New School for Social Research in New > York. > > > http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/03/when-socrates-met-phaedrus-eros-in-philosophy/?_r=0 > > > > "The intention of the “Phaedrus”.., as Alexander Nehemas has convincingly > suggested, is to inflame philosophical eros in Phaedrus that gives him the > ability to distinguish bad rhetoric, of the kinds found in Lysias’s speech > and in Socrates’s first speech, from true rhetoric, of the kind found in the > second speech and then analyzed in the second half of the dialogue." > > > "...The opposite of a self-contradiction, the “Phaedrus” is a performative > self-enactment of philosophy. If eros is a force that shapes the > philosopher, then rhetoric is the art by which the philosopher persuades the > non-philosopher to assume philosophical eros, to incline their soul towards > truth. But to do this does not entail abandoning the art of rhetoric or > indeed sophistry, which teaches that art, although it does so falsely. > Philosophy uses true rhetoric against false rhetoric. The subject matter > of the “Phaedrus” is rhetoric, true rhetoric. ..." > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
