Ron,
Please ignore last email. I just upgrade to OS X Mavericks and the the system
needs some adjustments. The last email was messed up.
> On Dec 7, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Dec 6, 2013, at 10:25 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think by 'value rigidity' RMP means, in the Buddhist sense, attachment.
>>>
>>> Ron:
>>> I would agree, but where I think
>>> RMP diverges from Buddhism
>>> Is how to overcome attachment ,
>>> To me, he clearly states that the
>>> Intellectual skills of reflection, analysis and re-assessment
>>> Of current value patterns is
>>> Essential in this endeavor .
>>>
>>> Sure we all have a degree of bias
>>> In our thinking this is given, but
>>> What counts is the method and
>>> Intent of overcoming them.
>>
>> Marsha:
>> There certainly is value in analysis, and I doubt that many Buddhists would
>> disagree with this. Reflection, analysis and re-assessment has its place.
>> But there is also great value in dropping all the preconceived, mechanical
>> assumptions used in analysis to allow for 'spur of the moment' - the
>> spontaneous - the fresh and new - the dynamic to emerge. When the
>> "prejudice against 'spur of the moment' Dynamic Quality is removed new
>> worlds of reality open up." - LILA. While the static is useful and human
>> beings are dependent on such patterns, static patterns of value ARE the
>> "cognitive biases". What else could the be? Better not to get boxed into
>> an either/or corner.
>>
>> Ron:
> I don't think anyone would disagree
> That analysis must be grounded in
> Empirical experience but
> I hesitate to say that all static patterns are biases because
> "Bias is an inclination of temperament or outlook to present or hold a
> partial perspective and a refusal to even consider the possible merits of
> alternative points of view. "
>>
>>
>> Bias is a temperament or outlook
> Towards static patterns. It is an attitude towards what is known.
>
> But if you understand all knowledge as attachment and rigid
> And bias then overcoming value
> Rigidity " knowledge " would be
> To kill all intellect but it would
> Fail in solving low quality situations
> Such as the monkey trap, it would
> Fail to use reflection and analysis
> Because they too are bias and are
> Part of the rigidity to be overcome .
> That's why I would not assert that all
> Static patterns are cognitive biases.
> It certainly would box us into an either/or situation of throwing out
> The baby with the bath water.
>
Marsha:
Please remember I wrote Words have more than one meaning/connotation. Here is
the is entry for 'bias' that I would choose:
2. a particular tendency or inclination, especially one that prevents
unprejudiced consideration of a question; prejudice.
(http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Bias?s=t)
And to extend my meaning, here is the entry for 'prejudice' that I would
consider:
2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
(http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Prejudice?s=t)
Turtles all the way down...
Please remember that I also wrote that the "static is useful and human beings
are dependent on such patterns". Most of what you've presented in this post I
do not relate to, and I have no need for you to adopt my view. So we differ in
our understanding. Vive La Difference!
Marsha
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