Good morning all I think it's time to summarize the former thread called "step one". I was asking for the exact definition of the delimiter between the inorganic level and the organic level. Dan and David put in some interesting read wether DNA was the most important or if a speculative and unexperienced XNA should be included. DNA and molecules are, however, inorganic patterns and would not qualify to be included in a definition of the difference between the inorganic level and the organic level.
I forgot to mention that most of my thinking comes from a small essay by Anthony McWatt and Eric Priezkalns called "The role of evolution, Time and Order in Robert Pirsig's "Metaphysics of Quality"" It's a tiny little 10 pages essay that you will read in 15 minutes or so. Even some words from RMP in it. I am sure you can find it on the web. On page 4 there are a picture of the 4 levels. please notice the little t at the bottom of it. T for time. Andre had a good suggestion about self-reproduction as a distinctive delimiter between inorganic and organic patterns which I supported. I wrote that the time-concept is crucial for a self-reproducing pattern as succesion and organic evolution by mutations and so on would be impossible without a working time concept. Time is important at the inorganic level also because enthropy shows us that chemical reactions doesn't work backwards at all. Another specific difference is that chemical reactions are mostly ignited by outer circumstances. Of course we have all representatives for the periodic table ignited by Big Bang but most of all these atoms are so stable that time and age is not an actual issue for them. The inorganic level is also good at describing the time as the millions of two-dimensional, expanding and diminishing rings, that appear on a water surface when its raining. Time is also showing as three-dimensional bubbles of sound waves in the air. Radiowaves from electronic devices. Bubbles of intensive force from explosions is another example. But it is still events and patterns at the inorganic level. The main difference that puts the organic patterns in its own level is not the different compositions of organic material, it is the cycles. A living thing has age, has a characteristic cycle between birth and death. An organic pattern without this cycle is just dead inorganic materia. Right? It is these revolving cycles, daily, monthly, yearly, lifely cycles that is following a superior set of morals that is placed above, or after the first inorganic level. The organic level is called as a level above the the inorganic because the organic level is both dependant of the inorganic and using it for its own purpose. These cycles are not passive automatas driven by circumstances from the surroundings but are ignited from inside. This inside motivator cycle patterns is what is passed over to the next copy. This inside placed spark has to work for keeping the energy level balanced, maintaining the correct shape and also keep up the communication and interact with the surroundings. Busy all day long. Meanwhile the inorganic patterns are waiting for the consumed best before date to come... Jan-Anders Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
