John to Andre:
I agree there is competition at all levels. I do not agree there is competition between the levels.

Andre:
I agree John and am unsure whether I have stated otherwise. I have always maintained that between the levels there is a struggle for domination, a competition for domination, a conflict of interests (if you like) where a higher 'form of evolutionary value patterns' competes for domination with the lower evolved value patterns. It may be that the confusion is sorted in annotation 52 where Pirsig suggests that 'the conflicts mentioned here (of the social level being aware of the intellectual level,in Lila's Child, p 126) are intellectual conflicts in which one side clings to an intellectual justification of existing social patterns and the other side intellectually opposes the existing social patterns...' p143.
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