John Carl said to Andre, Feb 27th 2014: I agree there is competition at all levels. I do not agree there is competition between the levels. Ant McWatt commented Feb 28th: John, that doesn't ring true to me, certainly as I understand the MOQ.
PLATT HOLDEN (sorry, I meant John Carl - oops!) then continued to Andre, Feb 27th 2014: I certainly don't see, for instance, how inorganic and organic patterns can in any way compete. But rather than trying to support Pirsig by quoting Pirsig, why can't you support Pirsig with real, experiential examples of what you say? Where on earth has any intellectual pattern, all by itself, competed with a pure social pattern? Ant McWatt then commented Feb 28th: Well John,for example, let's take the (social pattern of) money?... Andre responded bravely March 1st: And here Anthony tells us the trials and tribulations he has with his three wives...which inspired me to suggest the following: I have finally taken up the courage to present the MoQ in a public forum. People of note have been invited to attend and lo and behold: they are there. I'm a bit nervous and start the lecture on the shortfalls of SOM philosophies. Their attention is roused and I am about to launch into the MoQ proper when...oh no...I have to have a shit! I don't mean a simple feeling of having to pass wind. No! I really have to fart and I know there are going to be huge lumps in it. I am trying to 'keep myself together' but this 'organic' level knocks very hard. It's not a matter of 'putting it off' it's a matter of priorities and I know what level demands what. Not in 5 minutes' time, not in 1 minute time. I need to take action right NOW! It's not very difficult to figure out the levels that are in competition with each other and why. Is this a 'real experiential example' enough for you John? Ant McWatt comments: LOL Andre! I'm going to love seeing Platt's/John's response to THIS POST! All the best, Dr "Playboy" McWatt . Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
