Andre,

You may prefer to  look at it as competition between your brain and your
asshole, but I'm of the mind that if I can get them to cooperate by using
my head and finding toilet quick, thus I won't have to be stuck with my
toilet taking over my head.

The Apostle Paul agrees with you tho - he says "I beat my body and make it
my slave"  but I'd rather pet my body and make it my friend.

Different strokes, I guess.

John o'the different folk


On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Andre <[email protected]> wrote:

> John Carl then said to Andre, Feb 27th 2014:
> I agree there is competition at all levels. I do not agree there is
> competition between the levels.
>
> Ant Mcwatt comments:
>
> John, that doesn't ring true to me, certainly as I understand the MOQ.
>
> John Carl continued to Andre, Feb 27th 2014:
>
> I certainly don't see, for instance, how inorganic and organic patterns
> can in any way compete.  But rather than trying to support Pirsig by
> quoting Pirsig, why can't you support Pirsig with real, experiential
> examples of what you say?  Where on earth has any intellectual pattern, all
> by itself, competed with a pure social pattern?
>
> Ant Mcwatt comments:
>
> Well John,for example, let's take the (social pattern of) money.?
>
> Andre:
> And here Anthony tells us the trials and tribulations he has with his
> three wives...which inspired me to suggest the following:
> I have finally taken up the courage to present the MoQ in a public forum.
> People of note have been invited to attend and lo and behold: they are
> there. I'm a bit nervous and start the lecture on the shortfalls of SOM
> philosophies. Their attention is roused and I am about to launch into the
> MoQ proper when...oh no...I have to have a shit! I don't mean a simple
> feeling of having to pass wind. No! I really have to fart and I know there
> are going to be huge lumps in it. I am trying to 'keep myself together' but
> this 'organic' level knocks very hard. It's not a matter of 'putting it
> off' it's a matter of priorities and I know what level demands what. Not in
> 5 minutes' time, not in 1 minute time. I need to take action right NOW!
> It's not very difficult to figure out the levels that are in competition
> with each other and why.
>
> Is this a 'real experiential example' enough for you John?
>
>
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