dmb says: Yes, as in the hot stove example, Quality comes first and the static descriptions always follow. BUT one can respond to DQ in various ways: biologically, socially, or intellectually and that will be determined by one's level of development. That's why it's important to make distinctions between the levels. Anyone can respond biologically - anyone will jump off the stove. If we are responding to a book like Pirsig's, biological and social patterns are simply not good enough. Nobody can do philosophy with their guts and social level quality isn't going to help much either. Just as in motorcycle maintenance, you have to have a feel for the work or things are going to get all hacked up and distorted. That, I think, is John's problem. He not only doesn't have a feel for the work, he's hostile to it.
> From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 03:58:07 +0000 > Subject: Re: [MD] The Social aspect of SOM > > John "Birthday Cake Boy" Carl said earlier this month: > > > What I mean is, we get a feeling of injustice or unfairness first, then > > rationalize it after the fact. Nobody does it the other way around unless > > they are completely rule-bound (social) > > Ron Kulp replied March 12th 2014: > > "Often I don't have the feeling of > Being screwed when I'm being > Screwed, often it's after the fact > And I reflect, do I realize hey that > Asshole just pulled one over on me, > Then I feel injustice . > Like your last post to me. > It didn't piss me off until I thought > About it." > > > Ant McWatt comments: > > Good for you Ron. > > There we have a very good example (possibly even a better one than the "Hot > Stove" example in LILA) where we have a Dynamic "feeling" (or "intuition"... > whatever you like to call "IT") and then see the LATER static intellectual > realisation (by Ron in this particular case rather - than Spike the dog from > the Tom & Jerry cartoons... ) that someone (namely one John "Birthday Cake > Boy" Carl) is actually - despite initial appearances - trying to make me look > like a jackass (or rather foolish - to put it very politely)! > > ;-) > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
