Hi Chrisoph

It may be that the depiction of the lotus is that it is in a pre-flowering state - as is the Quality idea at the time of ZAMM's publishing. Hard to know really but it looks like it could represent a combining of the Romantic and Classical into a unified whole.
Just speculating really but that's what it suggests to me.

Cheers

Horse


On 07/10/2018 20:48, list wrote:
Hello,

Thank you all for your comments. The flower itself does indeed look like a 
lotus, but the green leaves below do not. The lotus is a water plant, also 
known as water lily. Its plant are big round green swimming island. The leaves 
shown on the cover does not look like that at all. So is this a romantic 
(inaccurate) interpretation?

The original cover:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_and_the_Art_of_Motorcycle_Maintenance#/media/File:Zen_motorcycle.jpg
 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_and_the_Art_of_Motorcycle_Maintenance#/media/File:Zen_motorcycle.jpg>

Images of the lotus plant and leaves:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Nelumbo+nucifera&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiNmuDBi_XdAhXQfd4KHa9bCdUQ_AUIDigB&biw=1564&bih=1158

Any ideas?

Thank you,
Christoph


On 6/10/2018, at 12:25 AM, Horse <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Christoph

The flower half of the motif on the cover of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle 
Maintenance (ZAMM) is a Lotus Flower which has a special place in Buddhism. 
According to Wiki:
"In*Buddhist*symbolism the*lotus*is symbolic of purity of the body, speech, and mind 
as while rooted in the mud, its*flowers blossom*on long stalks as if floating above the 
muddy waters of attachment and desire. It is also symbolic of detachment as drops of 
water easily slide off its petals."
The flower is Zen, the spanner the motorcycle.

Something else that may also be of interest are the markings on the spanner.
On my ancient copy of ZAMM, on the shaft of the spanner I can see 2 impressions 
from the 'casting'. One is 5/16W and the other is 3/8BSF. The first is for 
Whitworth (or British Standard Whitworth) and the second is for British 
Standard Fine which relate to bolt/thread sizes and were used extensively on 
British motorcycles, before and during the 1960's.
I don't know if this is to symbolise Pirsig's links with the UK or if it's just 
an artist's attention to detail. It does seem a bit incongruous when you think 
that Pirsig's motorcycle was Japanese which would likely have used the metric 
system. It may be some other additional symbolism or it may be nothing!
Food for thought?

Have a look at:
https://www.ebay.com/gds/Understanding-Whitworth-BSF-AF-BA-and-metric-tools-/10000000003499809/g.html
for more background info

There are other good references to be found if you search using Google.

Good luck with your research and feel free to post again with other questions 
or ideas

Horse



On 02/10/2018 21:35, list wrote:
Hello,

I am working on some research about the various editions of Pirsig’s books and 
I was wondering if anybody would know what flower/plant is depicted on several 
of the covers. I would suspect that it somehow relates to the philosophical 
ideas.

Any ideas?

Thank you,
Christoph
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