Greetings Glen,

You wrote:
> Define "more likely".  Vermont and Alaska both have damn near zero gun
laws
> and very little crime, nothing on the scale of California.  Have you spent
> much time around firearms to where you can honestly make this claim?  I
have
> and it seems pretty foundless.

My point is that where the underlying causes of aggression are similar, if
firearms are not widely available, less people will be shot. (Compare the
murder rates of inner city London with inner city Washington DC). That
doesn't seem an outrageous claim.

> Sam wrote:
> > To look at it purely in MoQ terms for a moment this diminishes the
> resources available
> > for the intellectual level and is therefore a low quality environment,
it
> is one in
> > which the potential to move to higher levels and experience DQ etc is
> diminished.
>
> You've lost me.  Are you equating maximizing resources for the experience
of
> dynamic quality as the goal of existence?   Where does it say that in
Lila?
> Elizaphanian you preach and I'll turn the pages!

"Whenever you kill a human being you are killing a source of thought too. A
human being is a collection of ideas, and these ideas take moral precedence
over a society. Ideas are patterns of value. They are at a higher level of
evolution than social patterns of value......That was the real moral lesson
of the brujo in Zuni. If those priests had killed him they would have done
great harm to their society's ability to grow and change." (Lila, ch 13)

Sam



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