Bo, On the night of April 2nd, when the moon is high, go outside and stand in the light of the moon. Look at the Moon. Experience the Moon. Become the Moon.
m At 04:33 AM 3/29/2007, you wrote: >Marsha. > >3/28 Marsha wrote: > > > Magnus and Bo, > > It seems you have been discussing 'pointing at the moon' versus the > > 'the Moon'. The MOQ as Intellectual ideas is the 'pointing to the > > moon'. The Moon is a place where the rules of intellect are left > > behind. Where a dualistic language is left behind. > >I know from later posts that you two have found each other >"under the moon" ;-) although I don't fully grasp how it disproves >the SOL interpretation. Is it that "moon" is a concept and the light >in the sky is "objective"? If so you are stuck in intellect's S/O >(concept/object) trying to escape it while simultaneously >accepting its premises. AKA "mysticism". > >Look, the said "light in the sky" has undergone fundamental >shifts, from ancient time (social age in our lingo) when the >Ancients regarded it a god or goddess and had no discussions >about any difference between its god-quality and the its sense- >quality. Only with the intellectual level did the the said >phenomenon become an object and the name a concept. > >So you see its not language which is dualistic - the said Ancients >surely had language - it's the intellectual LEVEL which imposes >its dualism on language - and all existence. > > > I have reconciled this by thinking of the MOQ levels as a triangle or > > pyramid. The mystic portion of the MOQ being the point and leading > > edge in the Intellectual Level cutting into the future towards > > freedom. It's a visual that works for me. > >No bad model, but in that case the leading point has moved so >far ahead that it can see the rest of the pyramid - including >intellect as an edifice made up of static layers. I simply can't >accept that a subset of the MOQ (the 4th static level) contains >the MOQ. > >But I know only too well what causes it, namely intellect - to you >all - is MIND, the realm of thinking. After the MOQ has rejected it >mind goes as strong as ever, and nothing I say makes the >slightest dent in the intellect=mind notion. > > > > Bo, speak to me of the MOQ using the language of the Moon. I've asked > > you a few times. Speak to me of the MOQ using a form of communication > > that is above the Intellectual Level. > >Right, I have done so. Language is the "form of communication" >that served the mythological reality, the SOM reality and now the >Quality Reality which transforms the said realities into its own >social and intellectual levels. > > > Or am I missing both your points. > >Obviously my point. > >IMO > >Bo > > > > > > > > > > >moq_discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
