> [Platt] > Which begs the question, "How does mind emerge from the mindless?" Science > is still struggling with the answer wouldn't you agree? > > [Case] > No.
"If the world consists only of patterns of mind and patterns of matter, what is the relationship between the two? If you read the hundreds of volumes of philosophy available on this matter you may conclude that nobody knows -or at least knows well enough to convince everybody else. There is the materialist school that says reality is all matter, which creates mind. There is the idealist school that says it is all mind, which creates matter. There is the positivist school which says this argument could go on forever; drop the subject." (Lila, 12) I agree with Pirsig. Nobody knows well enough to convince everybody else, including many scientists. "Consciousness is widely viewed as the last frontier of science. Modern science may have split the atom and solved the mystery of life, but it has yet to explain the source of conscious feelings." -- Adopted from "Introducing Consciousness" by David Papineau and Howard Selina, Icon Books http://www.21stcentury.co.uk/science/consciousness.asp [Case] Does science explain how organic systems develop from inorganic systems? Yes Does science explain how the nervous system works? Yes Does science show how the nervous system reacts under various conditions? Yes Can science explain what range of external stimulation will excite the senses? Yes Can philosophers say what consciousness is? No Can philosophers say what mind is? No Even apprentice scientists know that if you can not ask your questions properly you can not answer them. I think science is asking and answering meaningful questions about what kinds of critters we are. They are telling us how we got here and what we are doing. You on the other hand don't seem to like the answers and so you make up more childish questions. But scientists confine their professional work to meaningfully phrased questions and are not "struggling" to answer yours. It is not so much that they are telling you not to ask questions; they are just saying don't ask ones that don't make sense. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
